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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:03 pm
by wpmiller42
I really like Clarke. I wouldn't have a problem if we kept our pick at #6 and drafted him. Just watching Gonzaga games, looking more at highlights recently, I just think he would fit in really well here.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:16 pm
by Cap
If Clarke is our guy, we should take him at 6 rather than trade down and count on him to be there. You only trade down if you have multiple options you like at the lower pick.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:34 pm
by In2ition
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:16 pm
If Clarke is our guy, we should take him at 6 rather than trade down and count on him to be there. You only trade down if you have multiple options you like at the lower pick.
Agreed
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:45 pm
by ShelC
I'm all for getting your guy but right now I don't think he's sniffing the top 10 in terms of projections.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:55 pm
by ShelC
Offseason news but also draft related as ATL's been mentioned as a potential trade partner to move back.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:03 pm
by In2ition
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:45 pm
I'm all for getting your guy but right now I don't think he's sniffing the top 10 in terms of projections.
Who's projections are you looking at?
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:13 pm
by ShelC
NBADraft.net - 20th
CBSSports- 14th
SI/The Crossover- 23rd
Yahoo - 14th
NBCSports - 17th (to the Nets before they traded the pick obv)
Fansided and the The Ringer have him 11th which is the highest I've seen. But mid teens to 20s is where I've seen him most. Maybe he rises with some good workouts but I see an undersized hustle player with a small wingspan. Wouldn't reach for him at 6.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:14 pm
by O_Gardino
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:45 pm
I'm all for getting your guy but right now I don't think he's sniffing the top 10 in terms of projections.
Who's your top 10?
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:20 pm
by In2ition
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:13 pm
NBADraft.net - 20th
CBSSports- 14th
SI/The Crossover- 23rd
Yahoo - 14th
NBCSports - 17th (to the Nets before they traded the pick obv)
Fansided and the The Ringer have him 11th which is the highest I've seen. But mid teens to 20s is where I've seen him most. Maybe he rises with some good workouts but I see an undersized hustle player with a small wingspan. Wouldn't reach for him at 6.
I honestly wouldn't go by most of those. The Ringer is the closest, imo. Those other ones are pretty far off. I understand why you've bought into why they have him that low, but it's crap, imo. His production is outrageous for it to be that low.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:25 pm
by ShelC
Zion, JA, RJ, Cam, Culver, Garland, White, Hunter...after that it could be Hayes, Doumbouya, Washington, Little, Hachimura.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:30 pm
by ShelC
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:20 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:13 pm
NBADraft.net - 20th
CBSSports- 14th
SI/The Crossover- 23rd
Yahoo - 14th
NBCSports - 17th (to the Nets before they traded the pick obv)
Fansided and the The Ringer have him 11th which is the highest I've seen. But mid teens to 20s is where I've seen him most. Maybe he rises with some good workouts but I see an undersized hustle player with a small wingspan. Wouldn't reach for him at 6.
I honestly wouldn't go by most of those. The Ringer is the closest, imo. Those other ones are pretty far off. I understand why you've bought into why they have him that low, but it's crap, imo. His production is outrageous for it to be that low.
I also watched him this year and see a 23 year old hustle player with not much offensive game and poor shooting mechanics. I think he got a lot off on college teams where players are smaller and less athletic (similar to Josh Jackson). You can point to all the stats you want in college, it's about what he'll do in the NBA. You like him, fine. I think taking him 6th is a big reach at this point.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:38 pm
by O_Gardino
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:25 pm
Zion, JA, RJ, Cam, Culver, Garland, White, Hunter...after that it could be Hayes, Doumbouya, Washington, Little, Hachimura.
Do you like those guys for the Suns or are you just projecting that they should go higher than Clarke?
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:43 pm
by In2ition
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:30 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:20 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:13 pm
NBADraft.net - 20th
CBSSports- 14th
SI/The Crossover- 23rd
Yahoo - 14th
NBCSports - 17th (to the Nets before they traded the pick obv)
Fansided and the The Ringer have him 11th which is the highest I've seen. But mid teens to 20s is where I've seen him most. Maybe he rises with some good workouts but I see an undersized hustle player with a small wingspan. Wouldn't reach for him at 6.
I honestly wouldn't go by most of those. The Ringer is the closest, imo. Those other ones are pretty far off. I understand why you've bought into why they have him that low, but it's crap, imo. His production is outrageous for it to be that low.
I also watched him this year and see a 23 year old hustle player with not much offensive game and poor shooting mechanics. I think he got a lot off on college teams where players are smaller and less athletic (similar to Josh Jackson). You can point to all the stats you want in college, it's about what he'll do in the NBA. You like him, fine. I think taking him 6th is a big reach at this point.
He also did pretty well against a stacked Duke team and just about every team he played. He was arguably the 2nd best player in college basketball last year, and he's only 22, not 23. Comparing his production to Josh Jackson's seem odd to me. They really weren't all that close.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:57 pm
by ShelC
It is what it is guys. We'll see what happens between now and draft night.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:41 pm
by In2ition
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:57 pm
It is what it is guys. We'll see what happens between now and draft night.
You're right. Heck, idk, he could be available at 17 or later. I have no idea what the Suns or any other team is really thinking.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:19 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:41 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:57 pm
It is what it is guys. We'll see what happens between now and draft night.
You're right. Heck, idk, he could be available at 17 or later. I have no idea what the Suns or any other team is really thinking.
He’s right that it is what it is? Makes sense.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:35 pm
by In2ition
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:19 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:41 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:57 pm
It is what it is guys. We'll see what happens between now and draft night.
You're right. Heck, idk, he could be available at 17 or later. I have no idea what the Suns or any other team is really thinking.
He’s right that it is what it is? Makes sense.
Haha, I meant he's right that we'll see what happens.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:45 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:35 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:19 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:41 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:57 pm
It is what it is guys. We'll see what happens between now and draft night.
You're right. Heck, idk, he could be available at 17 or later. I have no idea what the Suns or any other team is really thinking.
He’s right that it is what it is? Makes sense.
Haha, I meant he's right that we'll see what happens.
I know. Just playin’.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:52 pm
by specialsauce
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:30 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:20 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:13 pm
NBADraft.net - 20th
CBSSports- 14th
SI/The Crossover- 23rd
Yahoo - 14th
NBCSports - 17th (to the Nets before they traded the pick obv)
Fansided and the The Ringer have him 11th which is the highest I've seen. But mid teens to 20s is where I've seen him most. Maybe he rises with some good workouts but I see an undersized hustle player with a small wingspan. Wouldn't reach for him at 6.
I honestly wouldn't go by most of those. The Ringer is the closest, imo. Those other ones are pretty far off. I understand why you've bought into why they have him that low, but it's crap, imo. His production is outrageous for it to be that low.
I also watched him this year and see a 23 year old hustle player with not much offensive game and poor shooting mechanics. I think he got a lot off on college teams where players are smaller and less athletic (similar to Josh Jackson). You can point to all the stats you want in college, it's about what he'll do in the NBA. You like him, fine. I think taking him 6th is a big reach at this point.
Thank you
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm
by jonh
After giving it a lot of thought, I've decided that I feel confident drafting whoever INF wants to draft at number 6.