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Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:11 pm
by ShelC
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:23 pm
by Nodack
I wish Oubre the best. He was an exciting player. I wasn’t that thrilled with his ego but, it made him who he was I guess. When Monte gets fired I bet he praises the Suns and thanks them for the opportunity, not throw in a parting shot at ownership. That’s why Monte is a professional and Oubre is still a kid.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:35 pm
by Danimal
I think most people have been through enough shit this year to really care about the petty ramblings of millionaires.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:53 pm
by Wally_West
This guy is a fucking joke.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:34 pm
by AmareIsGod
Wally_West wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:53 pm
This guy is a fucking joke.
A lot of funny replies ripping him for being a crap GM. One of the most recent ones was rather harsh.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:41 pm
by carey
McDonough probably wasn't going to get another chance as a GM but he's definitely not if he keeps up that kind of stuff online.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:43 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Be careful what you wish for, Kelly. Joe Lacob is just a richer Robert Sarver.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:39 pm
by Superbone
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:32 am
Nothing he said is untrue. We all know Sarver is a shitty person and only cares about himself.
I also don't think Sarver is the devil we all say he is. He's pretty charitable from what I've seen. Booker, Larry F, and Monty seem to like him. He must have some redeeming values.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:59 pm
by The Bobster
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:39 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:32 am
Nothing he said is untrue. We all know Sarver is a shitty person and only cares about himself.
I also don't think Sarver is the devil we all say he is. He's pretty charitable from what I've seen. Booker, Larry F, and Monty seem to like him. He must have some redeeming values.
I don't know the guy so I can't say what kind of person he is. We've certainly been fooled by players we thought were good citizens and by players we thought were bad citizens before.
We do know he's a bad owner though.
Andy Rooney once said something that certainly applies in this day and age where anything you say can instantly go viral - “Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them.”
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:50 pm
by Indy
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:39 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:32 am
Nothing he said is untrue. We all know Sarver is a shitty person and only cares about himself.
I also don't think Sarver is the devil we all say he is. He's pretty charitable from what I've seen. Booker, Larry F, and Monty seem to like him.
He must have some redeeming values.
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Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:14 pm
by Wally_West
Robert Sarver fucking sucks but McD trying to clown on James Jones is sad and pathetic.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:23 pm
by Indy
Yeah, plenty of people on twitter are saying he was just clowning Sarver and none of that was directed at Jones. I disagree.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:29 pm
by Wally_West
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:23 pm
Yeah, plenty of people on twitter are saying he was just clowning Sarver and none of that was directed at Jones. I disagree.
Right. The Dillion Brooks and Marshon Brooks bit is a clear shot at James Jones.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:32 pm
by Cap
Wally_West wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:53 pm
This guy is a fucking joke.
He thinks he’s funny? I’d tell him not to quit his day job, but...
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:54 pm
by specialsauce
Cap wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:32 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:53 pm
This guy is a fucking joke.
He thinks he’s funny? I’d tell him not to quit his day job, but...
He’s a loser. His bitterness is embarrassing. And how cute to root on a player for not liking management when every player that left his organization routinely hated McDouche
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:03 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
Of course Sarver picked him, and he is far from being a steady owner, but seeing how James Jones has managed to deal with him and actually building a team (Jones is also a Sarver hiring, and one widely disliked at firsthand, unlike Ryan) you have to wonder how much fault it’s truly on McD’s shoulders. And of course you can always turn to Sarver as an easy way out of accountability, like Kelly’s recent remarks.
After his recent Twitter rambling, it’s clear that McD was as childish, unprofessional and over-his-head-on their-job, as most of his draft picks, so...
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:55 am
by gosuns
Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:03 pm
Of course Sarver picked him, and he is far from being a steady owner, but seeing how James Jones has managed to deal with him and actually building a team (Jones is also a Sarver hiring, and one widely disliked at firsthand, unlike Ryan) you have to wonder how much fault it’s truly on McD’s shoulders. And of course you can always turn to Sarver as an easy way out of accountability, like Kelly’s recent remarks.
After his recent Twitter rambling, it’s clear that McD was as childish, unprofessional and over-his-head-on their-job, as most of his draft picks, so...
Zero people skills.You only had to hear him talk once to understand that he wasn‘t cut for that job. That Job is more about managing relationships than pure basketball decisions. This also says a lot about the guy who chose him...
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:40 am
by Superbone
Suns $16 million over the salary cap
Duane Rankin
Arizona Republic USA TODAY NETWORK
Phoenix Suns have done more than make additions this offseason.
They've also done some trading and most recently, subtracting.
Guard Elie Okobo is no longer with the Suns, the team confirmed Monday with The Republic .
Okobo averaged 4.8 points in his two seasons with the Suns after being drafted 31st overall (second round) of the 2018 draft. The 6-3 guard from France showed flashes of good play in Phoenix, but lacked consistency.
The Suns recently added unrestricted free agent Langston Galloway to cap a four-day run in free agency in building what is being viewed as a playoff-caliber roster.
They currently have 14 players counting the ones added in free agency. NBA teams can have 15 on the roster and two two-way players. Current roster: Devin Booker, Chris Paul, Deandre Ayton, Mikal Bridges, Jae Crowder, Cam Johnson, Dario Saric, Jevon Carter, E'Twaun Moore, Jalen Smith (rookie), Langston Galloway, Cameron Payne, Abdel Nader and Damian Jones.
They are $16 million over the salary cap that is set at $109.1 million. Entering free agency, Suns General Manager James Jones said they'd be 'an overthe- cap team.'
Their biggest offseason splash came in a trade last week.
Phoenix dealt Ricky Rubio, Kelly Oubre Jr., Ty Jerome, Jalen Lecque and a future first-round pick to Oklahoma City for Paul, an All-Star veteran point guard and one of the best to ever play the position, and Nader, a reserve forward.
Paul is due $41.3 million this season and $44.2 million next season with a player option.
Phoenix selected Smith with the 10th overall pick out of Maryland in last week's draft. The Suns have followed that up with re-signing restricted free agents Saric and Carter and adding free agents Crowder, Moore, Jones and Galloway.
The Suns signed undrafted rookie Ty-Shon Alexander to a two-way deal as they didn't re-sign Tariq Owens, who was on a two-way deal last season.
Two-way players spend the majority of their time in the G League and can only spend 45 days with the NBA team. The Suns have sold their G League team, Northern Arizona Suns, to the Detroit Pistons, but NAZ is scheduled to play one final season in Arizona before heading to Detroit for the 2021-22 season.
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 am
by ShelC
Over the cap but not in the luxury tax? Is that correct?
Re: Suns News: Offseason
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:39 pm
by Indy
ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 am
Over the cap but not in the luxury tax? Is that correct?
Correct. Cap is 109.1, tax is 132.6.