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Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:43 pm
by djy2j
Why haven't we signed Tony Allen yet? I'd love to get a year of mentoring out of him to help Booker and the rest of the young guys learn defense. Plus we could unload him at the deadline if it brings us assets.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:11 pm
by In2ition
djy2j wrote:Why haven't we signed Tony Allen yet? I'd love to get a year of mentoring out of him to help Booker and the rest of the young guys learn defense. Plus we could unload him at the deadline if it brings us assets.
I wish everyone could learn to be as good as a defender as Tony Allen, just by him being on the team. If that was the case, he would be worth his weight in gold+.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:56 pm
by Cap
In2ition wrote:
djy2j wrote:Why haven't we signed Tony Allen yet? I'd love to get a year of mentoring out of him to help Booker and the rest of the young guys learn defense. Plus we could unload him at the deadline if it brings us assets.
I wish everyone could learn to be as good as a defender as Tony Allen, just by him being on the team. If that was the case, he would be worth his weight in gold+.
Tony's Allen's weight in gold would be about half the MLE.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:50 pm
by Shabazz
5 suggestions for shooting guards the Suns could sign:

https://hoopshabit.com/2017/08/29/5-sho ... till-sign/

I'd pretty much be fine with any of them at the vet minimum.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:11 pm
by Superbone
I don't know about you guys but I haven't been impressed by Millsap in the least.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:24 pm
by Shabazz
Superbone wrote:I don't know about you guys but I haven't been impressed by Millsap in the least.
Agreed. He hasn't looked like an NBA player. I'm not sure what he does well other than keep our brother streak alive.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:40 pm
by In2ition
Cap wrote:
In2ition wrote:
djy2j wrote:Why haven't we signed Tony Allen yet? I'd love to get a year of mentoring out of him to help Booker and the rest of the young guys learn defense. Plus we could unload him at the deadline if it brings us assets.
I wish everyone could learn to be as good as a defender as Tony Allen, just by him being on the team. If that was the case, he would be worth his weight in gold+.
Tony's Allen's weight in gold would be about half the MLE.
How about if I add per month?

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:47 pm
by Mori Chu
He meant Oliver Miller's weight in gold.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:32 pm
by Split T
Cap wrote:
In2ition wrote:
djy2j wrote:Why haven't we signed Tony Allen yet? I'd love to get a year of mentoring out of him to help Booker and the rest of the young guys learn defense. Plus we could unload him at the deadline if it brings us assets.
I wish everyone could learn to be as good as a defender as Tony Allen, just by him being on the team. If that was the case, he would be worth his weight in gold+.
Tony's Allen's weight in gold would be about half the MLE.
Ha, so probably exactly what he's worth

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:56 am
by O_Gardino
I believe his contract is not guaranteed, so I assume he's gone as soon as there is a reason to make a roster move. In the meantime, he's cheap and he won't make a fuss when he doesn't get minutes.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:26 am
by djy2j
Milsap isn't an NBA player. As far as that list goes, Obviously, Tony Allen makes most sense. No to Goodwin and Green. Neither one of those guys brings anything that we don't already have and Goodwin didn't strike me as the best locker room guy. I don't know much about James Young other than he had potential but couldn't get a lot of minutes in Boston. I've said it before, that I think the team needs another veteran. I think there are too many young guys for only Chandler and Dudley to handle.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:35 am
by O_Gardino
djy2j wrote:Milsap isn't an NBA player. As far as that list goes, Obviously, Tony Allen makes most sense. No to Goodwin and Green. Neither one of those guys brings anything that we don't already have and Goodwin didn't strike me as the best locker room guy. I don't know much about James Young other than he had potential but couldn't get a lot of minutes in Boston. I've said it before, that I think the team needs another veteran. I think there are too many young guys for only Chandler and Dudley to handle.
I pretty much agree with this. Barbosa makes a lot of sense, if he wants to come back.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:55 am
by carey
I'd be more interested in taking some talent form the D-League but there's no indication we'd recognize it when we see it *cough* Seth Curry *cough.*

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:01 am
by JCSunsfan
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:He meant Oliver Miller's weight in gold.
That would be $7.7 million at today's spot price of $1320 per troy oz. (and Ollie at a svelt 400 lbs).

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:59 am
by Aztec Sunsfan
Friends, my best wishes for you and your families in Texas, I hope everybody is ok.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:22 am
by Superbone
carey wrote:I'd be more interested in taking some talent form the D-League but there's no indication we'd recognize it when we see it *cough* Seth Curry *cough.*
Wait, so what you're saying is that you'd like to form a D-League in addition to the G-League? I don't know. I think that's going to a little too much trouble to find a backup shooting guard.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:51 am
by Shabazz
djy2j wrote:Milsap isn't an NBA player. As far as that list goes, Obviously, Tony Allen makes most sense. No to Goodwin and Green. Neither one of those guys brings anything that we don't already have and Goodwin didn't strike me as the best locker room guy. I don't know much about James Young other than he had potential but couldn't get a lot of minutes in Boston. I've said it before, that I think the team needs another veteran. I think there are too many young guys for only Chandler and Dudley to handle.
Green would add some sorely needed 3-point shooting. And I kind of have a soft spot for Archie.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:00 am
by djy2j
Shabazz wrote:
djy2j wrote:Milsap isn't an NBA player. As far as that list goes, Obviously, Tony Allen makes most sense. No to Goodwin and Green. Neither one of those guys brings anything that we don't already have and Goodwin didn't strike me as the best locker room guy. I don't know much about James Young other than he had potential but couldn't get a lot of minutes in Boston. I've said it before, that I think the team needs another veteran. I think there are too many young guys for only Chandler and Dudley to handle.
Green would add some sorely needed 3-point shooting. And I kind of have a soft spot for Archie.
I was a fan of Green when he was here. He's definitely a shooter. Archie is still the same player he was in college. He drives to the hoop and looks for contact. He hasn't improved a single one of his weaknesses since being in the league. Can't shoot, below average FT, poor defense.

I'm at the point where I want guys brought in that help improve the young players on the team rather than the win/loss record.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:09 pm
by O_Gardino
I would honestly give Deron Williams a look. We don't need a PG, until Bled gets injured. But we could use someone with William's experience playing at an all-star level. Monte Ellis available too, I believe.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:36 pm
by carey
Aztec Sunsfan wrote:Friends, my best wishes for you and your families in Texas, I hope everybody is ok.
Gerald Green is actually riding around in a boat right now rescuing people in Houston. Kind of crazy.