2025 Suns Offeason News

[TOO]

Doing papa Bartelstein a favor.

[Singh]

Doing papa Bartelstein a favor.

We've done him enough favors

[TOO]

Doing papa Bartelstein a favor.

We've done him enough favors

Yeah, he might as well be on the payroll at this point.

[Split T]

Hopefully it means he does us one on the Beal buyout…waive your agent fee so Beal gives up more.

[TOO]

[JeremyG]

Anyone know anything about him?

He's from Michigan... would bet my life on it.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/42 ... iah-livers

Yup.

Born in Michigan, went to high school in Michigan, went to the University of Michigan, and has played his entire NBA career in Michigan for the Detroit Pistons.

Yep, it checks out.

He’s a PF who averaged 3.7 rebounds per 36 minutes the last season he played. So I hate him already.

[Split T]

This is a 2-way you guys…who cares

[JJ Slim]

Anyone know anything about him?

He's from Michigan... would bet my life on it.

Is that a bad thing? At least he went to UofM and not MSU

[Kryptonic]

Anyone know anything about him?

He's from Michigan... would bet my life on it.

Is that a bad thing? At least he went to UofM and not MSU

Nah...just cracks me up every time. Just looking forward to getting these young guys going and getting some reps.

I'm far more excited for this season than last.

[Mori Chu]

Born in Michigan, went to high school in Michigan, and went to the University of Michigan.

Yep, it checks out.

He’s a PF who averaged 3.7 rebounds per 36 minutes the last season he played. So I hate him already.

This FO is beyond parody.

[Split T]

You guys are reaching here…I’ll remind you again that he’s on a 2-way. Is it an agent favor? Ya probably. Livers missed all of last season and this is his chance to get a toe back in. I think this is one of those times where the Michigan connection is a coincidence. We haven’t shown any actual favoritism to Michigan based players…otherwise Jase Richardson would be on our team.

[TOO]

Born in Michigan, went to high school in Michigan, and went to the University of Michigan.

Yep, it checks out.

He’s a PF who averaged 3.7 rebounds per 36 minutes the last season he played. So I hate him already.

This FO is beyond parody.

[The Bobster]

He'll most likely be their 17th or 18th man, spend most of the year in the G League trying to re-establish himself. He a second round choice at PF/SF by Detroit that really didn't excel at anything, hurt his hip in his 3rd year, and has been out the last year-and-a-half.

[The Bobster]

The Suns will have 13 standard contracts after they buy out Beal.

I'd like to see them use one of those roster spots for Chris Paul and then it looks like they may be looking to trade some combination of Allen, O'Neal and Richards for a starting PF.

That would leave them with -

C Mark Williams, Khaman Maluach, Oso Ighodaro
PF [unknown starter], Nigel Hayes-Davis, Rasheer Fleming, C.J. Huntley [TW], Isaiah Livers [TW]
SF Dillon Brooks, Ryan Dunn
SG Devin Booker, Koby Brea [TW]
PG Jalen Green, Chris Paul, Collin Gillespie

That would still leave them the mid-level exception to sign a backup SG if they trade Allen or some insurance at C if they trade Richards.

[JeremyG]

You guys are reaching here…I’ll remind you again that he’s on a 2-way. Is it an agent favor? Ya probably. Livers missed all of last season and this is his chance to get a toe back in. I think this is one of those times where the Michigan connection is a coincidence. We haven’t shown any actual favoritism to Michigan based players…otherwise Jase Richardson would be on our team.

Yeah, but no need to waste a roster spot of any kind as a favor to Bartelstein. What has he done for us lately, besides destroy our team with Beal?

Also, I would say giving $150M to a mediocre franchise player instead of trading him could be called favoritism.

[Carno]

The Suns will have 13 standard contracts after they buy out Beal.

I'd like to see them use one of those roster spots for Chris Paul and then it looks like they may be looking to trade some combination of Allen, O'Neal and Richards for a starting PF.

That would leave them with -

C Mark Williams, Khaman Maluach, Oso Ighodaro
PF [unknown starter], Nigel Hayes-Davis, Rasheer Fleming, C.J. Huntley [TW], Isaiah Livers [TW]
SF Dillon Brooks, Ryan Dunn
SG Devin Booker, Koby Brea [TW]
PG Jalen Green, Chris Paul, Collin Gillespie

That would still leave them the mid-level exception to sign a backup SG if they trade Allen or some insurance at C if they trade Richards.

Gonna be hard to use the mid-level exception for a backup SG when they use it to sign Paul. You really think Paul is coming for the minimum? If that were so, why hasn't he signed yet?

[The Bobster]

One option is to split the mid-level exception, another is to trade one of the three players they have available for depth.

[Split T]

You guys are reaching here…I’ll remind you again that he’s on a 2-way. Is it an agent favor? Ya probably. Livers missed all of last season and this is his chance to get a toe back in. I think this is one of those times where the Michigan connection is a coincidence. We haven’t shown any actual favoritism to Michigan based players…otherwise Jase Richardson would be on our team.

Yeah, but no need to waste a roster spot of any kind as a favor to Bartelstein. What has he done for us lately, besides destroy our team with Beal?

Also, I would say giving $150M to a mediocre franchise player instead of trading him could be called favoritism.

Booker has been here 10+ years…it’s weird if you try to use him as a Michigan connection.

[JeremyG]

You guys are reaching here…I’ll remind you again that he’s on a 2-way. Is it an agent favor? Ya probably. Livers missed all of last season and this is his chance to get a toe back in. I think this is one of those times where the Michigan connection is a coincidence. We haven’t shown any actual favoritism to Michigan based players…otherwise Jase Richardson would be on our team.

Yeah, but no need to waste a roster spot of any kind as a favor to Bartelstein. What has he done for us lately, besides destroy our team with Beal?

Also, I would say giving $150M to a mediocre franchise player instead of trading him could be called favoritism.

Booker has been here 10+ years…it’s weird if you try to use him as a Michigan connection.

It’s weird for Ishbia to say he’s untouchable and that he is never going to trade him, after 10 years of failed leadership.

[TOO]

You guys are reaching here…I’ll remind you again that he’s on a 2-way. Is it an agent favor? Ya probably. Livers missed all of last season and this is his chance to get a toe back in. I think this is one of those times where the Michigan connection is a coincidence. We haven’t shown any actual favoritism to Michigan based players…otherwise Jase Richardson would be on our team.

Yeah, but no need to waste a roster spot of any kind as a favor to Bartelstein. What has he done for us lately, besides destroy our team with Beal?

Also, I would say giving $150M to a mediocre franchise player instead of trading him could be called favoritism.

Booker has been here 10+ years…it’s weird if you try to use him as a Michigan connection.

Don't forget who you're talking to, a non Suns fan, you're wasting your time.