There's no Rooney rule in the NBA afaik?Indy wrote:I would think they have to interview, officially, especially because he is another white guy.
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I didn't mean that they are legally required. I mean, if you are really trying to find the best candidate, you need to look everywhere, and get differing opinions. You can't do that by only looking at the people close to you or who have the same perspective as you.carey wrote:There's no Rooney rule in the NBA afaik?Indy wrote:I would think they have to interview, officially, especially because he is another white guy.
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Shots fired!Indy wrote:I didn't mean that they are legally required. I mean, if you are really trying to find the best candidate, you need to look everywhere, and get differing opinions. You can't do that by only looking at the people close to you or who have the same perspective as you.
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No shots. Just a huge believer in surrounding yourself with differing opinions. One of my favorite quotes is: "you have no progress without dissent." You need to be challenged to move forward, and usually people with similar backgrounds, up-bringings, culture, and socio-economic status brings lots of group think. I hate that.Hermen wrote:Shots fired!Indy wrote:I didn't mean that they are legally required. I mean, if you are really trying to find the best candidate, you need to look everywhere, and get differing opinions. You can't do that by only looking at the people close to you or who have the same perspective as you.
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I was just joking because it's how Watson was hired. Otherwise, I agreeIndy wrote:No shots. Just a huge believer in surrounding yourself with differing opinions. One of my favorite quotes is: "you have no progress without dissent." You need to be challenged to move forward, and usually people with similar backgrounds, up-bringings, culture, and socio-economic status brings lots of group think. I hate that.Hermen wrote:Shots fired!Indy wrote:I didn't mean that they are legally required. I mean, if you are really trying to find the best candidate, you need to look everywhere, and get differing opinions. You can't do that by only looking at the people close to you or who have the same perspective as you.

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NBA commissioner Adam Silver is open to exploring a change to the league's age limit, saying on Thursday that the one-and-done rule is "not working for anyone."
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It would be nice. Unfortunately, won't it will hurt the lottery teams the first year? Say it goes into affect for the 2019 draft, that means that Marvin Bagley III, if he is a transcedent player, will have to wait until the 2020 draft. So all the lottery teams in 2019 will have a lot of watered down talent to choose from.carey wrote:https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 102407008/NBA commissioner Adam Silver is open to exploring a change to the league's age limit, saying on Thursday that the one-and-done rule is "not working for anyone."
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Unless they drop the age limit altogether
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It's pretty much the same stance that Stern took - and one that probably doesn't work for the union.
I think the league would be better of eliminating the age limit and then figuring out a way to utilize the D-League/G-League to get the younger players playing experience.
I think the league would be better of eliminating the age limit and then figuring out a way to utilize the D-League/G-League to get the younger players playing experience.
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They are never going back to that. I think they'll push it to two years at some point. Probably within the next 2 years.Split T wrote:Unless they drop the age limit altogether
It's weird but the older I get the more I feel like they should just do away with the draft & let players sign wherever the heck they want when they come into the league. Players can go to a situation that suits them best and it will utterly eliminate tanking. Turn the salary cap into a hard cap and eliminate the % max. You got LeBron? Great. He now commands 50% of your hard capped salary cap. You couldn't sign the #1 guy coming out of college anyway.
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I dunno, Silver sounded open to dropping it to me. It doesn't make a lot of sense to push it to 2 years because the kids still won't care.
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They will NEVER eliminate the draft if it comes with a hard cap. The union would never agree to that.carey wrote:They are never going back to that. I think they'll push it to two years at some point. Probably within the next 2 years.Split T wrote:Unless they drop the age limit altogether
It's weird but the older I get the more I feel like they should just do away with the draft & let players sign wherever the heck they want when they come into the league. Players can go to a situation that suits them best and it will utterly eliminate tanking. Turn the salary cap into a hard cap and eliminate the % max. You got LeBron? Great. He now commands 50% of your hard capped salary cap. You couldn't sign the #1 guy coming out of college anyway.
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Don't see why not. The cap can change every year based on BRI so they still get their 51%.
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Sometimes simplifying is best. Sounds like you aren't keeping the rookie scale salaries?carey wrote:They are never going back to that. I think they'll push it to two years at some point. Probably within the next 2 years.Split T wrote:Unless they drop the age limit altogether
It's weird but the older I get the more I feel like they should just do away with the draft & let players sign wherever the heck they want when they come into the league. Players can go to a situation that suits them best and it will utterly eliminate tanking. Turn the salary cap into a hard cap and eliminate the % max. You got LeBron? Great. He now commands 50% of your hard capped salary cap. You couldn't sign the #1 guy coming out of college anyway.
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I would love it if they'd move to a 2-year minimum in college. I basically don't watch college basketball because I can't stand how all the players leave after just one season. It's too hard to keep track of all the players and not enough consistency from year to year.
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What would people say to the baseball model? Either straight from high school or you've got to stay 3 years in college? I think I'd bump that down to 2, but I kinda like it. I think I'd like the G League to be more established as a minor league type system first though.
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If I was an international team, I would see this as an opportunity to step in and recruit American high schoolers.
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Maybe straight from high school to D-league for two years or two years on college and then NBA?Split T wrote:What would people say to the baseball model? Either straight from high school or you've got to stay 3 years in college? I think I'd bump that down to 2, but I kinda like it. I think I'd like the G League to be more established as a minor league type system first though.
Most of this kids' bodies are not ready anyway to compete in the NBA, but this would allow them to start getting paid if they choose to. Teams could start developing them and the D-League would get an inyection of exposure and talent. You can set some aditional rules, like a wild card every two years for every team to play his pick directly from HS, or injury exceptions allowing to call a drafted player to the NBA team, maybe even allow unconditional 5 games stints. You could also implement a third drafting round, exclusively for D-League spots, with some exceptions as well.
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Even with the baseball draft rules we still see plenty of HS baseball players sign right out of HS. And I really don't see how it's the job of the NBA to fix the problems in the NCAA.
As mentioned above, 20-year age limit would probably mean more players signing in Europe, and a few signing with the developmental league.
My thought is to have all players 18 and older eligible for the draft and adding another team option year on the rookie contracts, giving teams control over first round picks for at least six years (two guaranteed, three option years and one qualifying offer year for restricted free agents). 17-year-old high school graduates who want to turn professional could play in the D-League/G-League or abroad before becoming eligible for the draft.
Six years is certainly enough time to evaluate a player and decide whether to make a long-term commitment, and still young enough that a player will likely have two chances to score big contracts before turning 30.
As mentioned above, 20-year age limit would probably mean more players signing in Europe, and a few signing with the developmental league.
My thought is to have all players 18 and older eligible for the draft and adding another team option year on the rookie contracts, giving teams control over first round picks for at least six years (two guaranteed, three option years and one qualifying offer year for restricted free agents). 17-year-old high school graduates who want to turn professional could play in the D-League/G-League or abroad before becoming eligible for the draft.
Six years is certainly enough time to evaluate a player and decide whether to make a long-term commitment, and still young enough that a player will likely have two chances to score big contracts before turning 30.
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What about making players eligible straight out of highschool but not making them eligible to sign NBA contracts until year 3?
If you're LeBron James you go #1 in the draft but sign a G league contact, say 100,000 a year, but get paid NBA minimum for every game you spend with the NBA team. After 2 years, you sign the typical 4 year rookie deal.
If you stayed in college 2-4 years, you sign the typical rookie deal straight out of college.
The goal would be to encourage most prospects to go to college, the select few that are ready for the NBA can get an early start on their careers and make a little money, rather than playing in college for tuition.
If you're LeBron James you go #1 in the draft but sign a G league contact, say 100,000 a year, but get paid NBA minimum for every game you spend with the NBA team. After 2 years, you sign the typical 4 year rookie deal.
If you stayed in college 2-4 years, you sign the typical rookie deal straight out of college.
The goal would be to encourage most prospects to go to college, the select few that are ready for the NBA can get an early start on their careers and make a little money, rather than playing in college for tuition.