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Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:07 pm
by iLLmatic
ShelC wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:38 am
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1089919126867402752 Hey we need a PF right?
Damn he got fat.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:32 pm
by JeremyG
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:14 pm
Looks like Mirotic, Randle and Johnson were made available this past weekend for picks. I think they are trying to clear their roster for the AD trade, which should also bring in players.

Can the Suns get in on the AD trade and get Lonzo, or just go for getting Conley and Mirotic before the trade deadline?
Randle would have been a much smarter signing than Ariza. An actual PF rather than another SF. Maybe we can still get him via trade and/or FA.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:35 pm
by Split T
Randle is really good. He’s not a great fit with Ayton, but he’s a good basketball player and isn’t a non shooter anymore. We could probably get him from New Orleans fairly easy. Bender’s expiring and the Milwaukee first would probably do it. He’s got a player option next season that he’ll almost definitely decline as he should get a better deal this summer. So it might just be a rental, but if he plays well with Ayton, we could try and lock him up long term.

I think I’d look to move warren and Jackson if we do get randle.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:17 pm
by INFORMER
Would anyone deal TJ Warren for Nikola Mirotic/2nd rounder?

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:24 pm
by Superbone
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:17 pm
Would anyone deal TJ Warren for Nikola Mirotic/2nd rounder?
Yes.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:37 pm
by Split T
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:17 pm
Would anyone deal TJ Warren for Nikola Mirotic/2nd rounder?
Mirotic is a better fit for us, he’s also unrestricted this summer. Why does New Orleans do it? Think they’d lean towards clearing space rather than adding money. Maybe they choose not to go for a total rebuild though. Warren is a good value contract to have.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:00 pm
by Shabazz
If we want Mirotic, I'd ratger pursue him this offseason than give up assets for him now.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:04 pm
by JeremyG
Yes, either Mirotic or Randle would be good free agent targets at PF this summer. But if we don't have to give up much more than a draft pick, it might give us an advantage to trade for one of them now.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:45 am
by In2ition
I'd see what it would take to get in on the AD trade first, but something has to be done to start to salvage the season in the sense of salvaging these guys' mental health before the off-season.

Re: RE: Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:49 am
by carey
Shabazz wrote:If we want Mirotic, I'd ratger pursue him this offseason than give up assets for him now.
Depending on what else we do we may be operating as an over the cap team & we'd need his bird rights to sign him. We'll see what the next 10 days brings.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:42 am
by specialsauce
Superbone wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:24 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:17 pm
Would anyone deal TJ Warren for Nikola Mirotic/2nd rounder?
Yes.
Yes.

Warren Jackson Anderson +protected first round pick for Mirotic and Holiday

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:12 am
by ShelC
I don't think they'd take that money back. I'd trade Warren for Mirotic tho just to clear that deal and reallocate the money to Mirotic in the offseason. He's the veteran stretch 4 we need.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:55 am
by specialsauce
ShelC wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:12 am
I don't think they'd take that money back. I'd trade Warren for Mirotic tho just to clear that deal and reallocate the money to Mirotic in the offseason. He's the veteran stretch 4 we need.
We’d have to include Anderson in any deal for Holiday I presume to make the money work. We don’t have any expiring contracts because James Jones has no brain.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:59 am
by Split T
I think we could get close enough with Warren/Bender/Daniels...that’s essentially 20 million. Might need to throw another contract on there. I think Jrue is about 27 or 28 million? Warren/Bender/Jackson would get it done.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 am
by Shabazz
Just to clarify, Chandler would have been the only expiring we could have used in any trade where we send out more than 1 player. Waiving Rivers hurt our ability to trade for a player in the $10-$15M range, but he could not have been included in any Jrue/Conley/AD trade.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:59 am
by Ring_Wanted
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 am
Just to clarify, Chandler would have been the only expiring we could have used in any trade where we send out more than 1 player. Waiving Rivers hurt our ability to trade for a player in the $10-$15M range, but he could not have been included in any Jrue/Conley/AD trade.
Dudley/Arthur too.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:02 pm
by ShelC
Glad James Jones helped out his buddy by waiving Chandler so early in the season. Really nice of him. Glad he's our GM.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:14 pm
by specialsauce
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 am
Just to clarify, Chandler would have been the only expiring we could have used in any trade where we send out more than 1 player. Waiving Rivers hurt our ability to trade for a player in the $10-$15M range, but he could not have been included in any Jrue/Conley/AD trade.

Ariza.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:06 pm
by Shabazz
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:59 am
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 am
Just to clarify, Chandler would have been the only expiring we could have used in any trade where we send out more than 1 player. Waiving Rivers hurt our ability to trade for a player in the $10-$15M range, but he could not have been included in any Jrue/Conley/AD trade.
Dudley/Arthur too.
We traded Dudley so we could get Holmes. We also had to let Arthur go because we were at our roster max and still had to sign Melton.

Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:08 pm
by Shabazz
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:14 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 am
Just to clarify, Chandler would have been the only expiring we could have used in any trade where we send out more than 1 player. Waiving Rivers hurt our ability to trade for a player in the $10-$15M range, but he could not have been included in any Jrue/Conley/AD trade.

Ariza.
Not really applicable here unless you want to argue we should have held on to him until the deadline to see who became available. I was happy to see him go immediately.