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Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:42 am
by Superbone
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:17 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:54 pm
Please no more Jock Landale. Dude couldn’t make a bunny. This cute experiment is cute, but there’s a reason he’s a nobody.
Strange take. He’s a back up Center. You want them to play Biyombo instead?
And he did what Ayton couldn't. Got to that rebound with Nurk in between him and the basket. I'm sure he rushed that bunny a bit not knowing how much time was left. Gallant effort.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:54 am
by Superbone
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:19 am
by Mori Chu
I don't buy this narrative that Ayton lost us the game. I know people bag on JeremyG for defending Ayton so much, but Ayton had a strong game, without a doubt our second-best player on the floor. And he went to the basket and got fouled on the deciding possession along with having other baskets down the stretch. Yeah, he missed an important FT, but then he did quite a nice job bouncing his intentionally missed FT right to a teammate (who then missed a gimmie layup). Also Mikal Bridges similarly missed an FT at end of regulation that could have won us the game, and had much more pedestrian stats than Ayton did, but I don't really hear people bagging on him for his play.
I am not some Ayton apologist, I don't think he's a perfect player. But do you really think he's to blame for this loss?
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:31 am
by Wally_West
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:15 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:19 am
I don't buy this narrative that Ayton lost us the game. I know people bag on JeremyG for defending Ayton so much, but Ayton had a strong game, without a doubt our second-best player on the floor. And he went to the basket and got fouled on the deciding possession along with having other baskets down the stretch. Yeah, he missed an important FT, but then he did quite a nice job bouncing his intentionally missed FT right to a teammate (who then missed a gimmie layup). Also Mikal Bridges similarly missed an FT at end of regulation that could have won us the game, and had much more pedestrian stats than Ayton did, but I don't really hear people bagging on him for his play.
I am not some Ayton apologist, I don't think he's a perfect player. But do you really think he's to blame for this loss?
It's not one play. It's a culmination of a lot of little mistakes that add up. That's the difference. Not boxing out. Not going up strong. Making up his mind to pass when he had a wide open dunk. I don't think it's too much to ask for our $133 million dollar man to shore up these holes.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:22 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:58 am
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:17 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:54 pm
Please no more Jock Landale. Dude couldn’t make a bunny. This cute experiment is cute, but there’s a reason he’s a nobody.
Strange take. He’s a back up Center. You want them to play Biyombo instead?
Dario
Landale is better.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:27 pm
by INFORMER
Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:30 am
There are no empty stat guys playing alongside a healthy Lillard. We said shit like that about Wood and he nearly kicked our ass.
This site sometimes gets these weird groupthink opinions on players and teams that don't really match reality. It happened with Bobby Portis. It's true of Christian Wood too. Wood has his flaws, but he is a good player at the end of the day, and a very nice pickup for Dallas.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:32 pm
by INFORMER
pickle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:32 am
Not that big on Nurk anymore. Used to think he was very nimble, but he’s clearly a bit of a poor fit for the modern game.
How did you like that 20/17 performance?
pickle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:32 am
Little seems interesting.
He has some nice physical tools, but he has really struggled to be productive. Needs to improve his 3-point shot too.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:36 pm
by INFORMER
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:17 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:54 pm
Please no more Jock Landale. Dude couldn’t make a bunny. This cute experiment is cute, but there’s a reason he’s a nobody.
Strange take. He’s a back up Center. You want them to play Biyombo instead?
That's just saucy being saucy.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:38 pm
by specialsauce
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:36 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:17 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:54 pm
Please no more Jock Landale. Dude couldn’t make a bunny. This cute experiment is cute, but there’s a reason he’s a nobody.
Strange take. He’s a back up Center. You want them to play Biyombo instead?
That's just saucy being saucy.
That’s cute that you guys like Jake Voshkul.
He’s a third C. Dario on one leg has better touch around the rim and is craftier. I’m not impressed.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:43 pm
by INFORMER
ShelC wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:12 am
Landale is a good enough role player and backup for us. Not sure where the criticism is coming from.
He missed a put back that could have sent the game into a second overtime; clearly he doesn't belong in the league.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:51 pm
by specialsauce
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:42 am
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:17 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:54 pm
Please no more Jock Landale. Dude couldn’t make a bunny. This cute experiment is cute, but there’s a reason he’s a nobody.
Strange take. He’s a back up Center. You want them to play Biyombo instead?
And he did what Ayton couldn't. Got to that rebound with Nurk in between him and the basket. I'm sure he rushed that bunny a bit not knowing how much time was left. Gallant effort.
Jake voskuhl made that just sayin’
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:57 pm
by TOO
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:19 am
I don't buy this narrative that Ayton lost us the game. I know people bag on JeremyG for defending Ayton so much, but Ayton had a strong game, without a doubt our second-best player on the floor. And he went to the basket and got fouled on the deciding possession along with having other baskets down the stretch. Yeah, he missed an important FT, but then he did quite a nice job bouncing his intentionally missed FT right to a teammate (who then missed a gimmie layup). Also Mikal Bridges similarly missed an FT at end of regulation that could have won us the game, and had much more pedestrian stats than Ayton did, but I don't really hear people bagging on him for his play.
I am not some Ayton apologist, I don't think he's a perfect player. But do you really think he's to blame for this loss?
Jones is to blame more than Ayton is. Run it back baby.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:23 pm
by Drewsprocket
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:27 pm
Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:30 am
There are no empty stat guys playing alongside a healthy Lillard. We said shit like that about Wood and he nearly kicked our ass.
This site sometimes gets these weird groupthink opinions on players and teams that don't really match reality. It happened with Bobby Portis. It's true of Christian Wood too. Wood has his flaws, but he is a good player at the end of the day, and a very nice pickup for Dallas.
Makes sense. I can think of one true empty stats guy; Russ. He plays for himself and his own stats. Probably are others. Russ doesn’t really make anyone else better. Otherwise I view the term as someone who puts up numbers on a non competitive team.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:03 pm
by Superbone
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:38 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:36 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:17 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:54 pm
Please no more Jock Landale. Dude couldn’t make a bunny. This cute experiment is cute, but there’s a reason he’s a nobody.
Strange take. He’s a back up Center. You want them to play Biyombo instead?
That's just saucy being saucy.
That’s cute that you guys like Jake Voshkul.
He’s a third C. Dario on one leg has better touch around the rim and is craftier. I’m not impressed.
Yes, I liked Jake Voshkul very much. Like Cotton used to say, "You can never have enough dirt workers."
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:19 pm
by specialsauce
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:03 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:38 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:36 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:17 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:54 pm
Please no more Jock Landale. Dude couldn’t make a bunny. This cute experiment is cute, but there’s a reason he’s a nobody.
Strange take. He’s a back up Center. You want them to play Biyombo instead?
That's just saucy being saucy.
That’s cute that you guys like Jake Voshkul.
He’s a third C. Dario on one leg has better touch around the rim and is craftier. I’m not impressed.
Yes, I liked Jake Voshkul very much. Like Cotton used to say, "You can never have enough dirt workers."
I don’t like dirt or junk I prefer talent
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:05 pm
by TOO
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:03 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:38 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:36 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:17 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:54 pm
Please no more Jock Landale. Dude couldn’t make a bunny. This cute experiment is cute, but there’s a reason he’s a nobody.
Strange take. He’s a back up Center. You want them to play Biyombo instead?
That's just saucy being saucy.
That’s cute that you guys like Jake Voshkul.
He’s a third C. Dario on one leg has better touch around the rim and is craftier. I’m not impressed.
Yes, I liked Jake Voshkul very much. Like Cotton used to say, "You can never have enough dirt workers."
Yes, yes you can.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:35 pm
by Mori Chu
I think the modern version is, "You can never have enough shooters." Especially 3-point shooters. (Cotton understood that, too. Those old Suns teams had lots of firepower.)
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:42 pm
by ShelC
Lil Jake never shot 3s.
Re: Game Day: Suns (1-0) @ Blazers (1-0), Fri 10/21/22
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:48 pm
by The Bobster
Well, there is some truth to what Cotton said - he had Kurt Rambis and Mark West. Last year's Suns had Jae Crowder and JaVale McGee. You have to have guys who can contribute without the ball in their hands.
We just don't know if Jock is any good yet, so I doubt I would play him over Biyombo, unless it's just for stretching the defense.