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DA doesn’t do anything at a max level. Not a thing.JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:09 pmWait are you being serious? 20 ppg? He would be doing that without anything even changing in his play, his role, or the system if he was simply playing just 4 more minutes per game.Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:52 pmYour version of Ayton exists in China. There is and never was an Ayton that is a leading scorer. You need a time machine back to the 90’s when someone like him could hang 20ppg on a nightly basis.
I beg to differ. NOBODY comes close to him in NBA2K ability.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:29 pmDA doesn’t do anything at a max level. Not a thing.JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:09 pmWait are you being serious? 20 ppg? He would be doing that without anything even changing in his play, his role, or the system if he was simply playing just 4 more minutes per game.Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:52 pmYour version of Ayton exists in China. There is and never was an Ayton that is a leading scorer. You need a time machine back to the 90’s when someone like him could hang 20ppg on a nightly basis.
Not even true. Book beat him in NBA 2k pretty handily.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:57 pmI beg to differ. NOBODY comes close to him in NBA2K ability.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:29 pmDA doesn’t do anything at a max level. Not a thing.JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:09 pmWait are you being serious? 20 ppg? He would be doing that without anything even changing in his play, his role, or the system if he was simply playing just 4 more minutes per game.Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:52 pmYour version of Ayton exists in China. There is and never was an Ayton that is a leading scorer. You need a time machine back to the 90’s when someone like him could hang 20ppg on a nightly basis.
Yeah, but I'm talking about Legend status.Wally_West wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 7:14 pmNot even true. Book beat him in NBA 2k pretty handily.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:57 pmI beg to differ. NOBODY comes close to him in NBA2K ability.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:29 pmDA doesn’t do anything at a max level. Not a thing.JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:09 pmWait are you being serious? 20 ppg? He would be doing that without anything even changing in his play, his role, or the system if he was simply playing just 4 more minutes per game.Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:52 pmYour version of Ayton exists in China. There is and never was an Ayton that is a leading scorer. You need a time machine back to the 90’s when someone like him could hang 20ppg on a nightly basis.
Well Mikal can’t be the primary on ball scorer when we’re playing a bunch of Ed fucking Nealys on the floor with him. Mikal can take on more with a healthy starting unit.Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:43 pmYou’re not wrong. He doesn’t need to be a leading scorer or mvp candidate. I just want him to be capable of looking like that type of player every now and then.JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:12 pmAs for Ayton being a leading scorer or MVP candidate, those are not necessary in order to be worth a max contract in this league.
Another very strange argument I keep hearing is people who claim that Ayton is struggling as the #1 which proves that he can't be a #2. Makes no sense.
There’s 2 paths for him to be worth max money to me…the first is for him to consistently play like he did in the 2021 playoffs. Just fully buy into the roll man role on offense, attack the glass relentlessly, and be a great defensive anchor.
The other path is for him to develop into a featured offensive player that isn’t dependent on his teammates for production. He could still be primarily a post threat, but he needs to be able to get himself into the post by dribbling. Even if his numbers don’t change, as long as we can give him the ball and force the defense to defend it, it makes a difference.
I think he and Mikal are showing they are just 3rd options right now. I’ve been intrigued that Mikal has flashed some on ball productivity the last couple games, but I think his struggles the previous month show he can’t consistently do that. I’m pretty intrigued to see how everyone looks when everyone is healthy besides Book.
A CP3/Mikal/Lee/CamJ/Ayton lineup should force Mikal and CamJ to run the Book role, Lee is more the Mikal role and we’d need to feature more CP3/Ayton pnr and trying to find Ayton more.
Well he certainly has every now and then (Player of the Week for example).Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:43 pmYou’re not wrong. He doesn’t need to be a leading scorer or mvp candidate. I just want him to be capable of looking like that type of player every now and then.JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:12 pmAs for Ayton being a leading scorer or MVP candidate, those are not necessary in order to be worth a max contract in this league.
Another very strange argument I keep hearing is people who claim that Ayton is struggling as the #1 which proves that he can't be a #2. Makes no sense.
We saw a little bit of that last game, but then he missed the hook shots in the paint. He did have 4 assists, though.Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:43 pmThere’s 2 paths for him to be worth max money to me…the first is for him to consistently play like he did in the 2021 playoffs. Just fully buy into the roll man role on offense, attack the glass relentlessly, and be a great defensive anchor.
The other path is for him to develop into a featured offensive player that isn’t dependent on his teammates for production. He could still be primarily a post threat, but he needs to be able to get himself into the post by dribbling. Even if his numbers don’t change, as long as we can give him the ball and force the defense to defend it, it makes a difference.
I would like to see how Mikal looks if he got a couple weeks of rest.Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:43 pmI think he and Mikal are showing they are just 3rd options right now. I’ve been intrigued that Mikal has flashed some on ball productivity the last couple games, but I think his struggles the previous month show he can’t consistently do that. I’m pretty intrigued to see how everyone looks when everyone is healthy besides Book.
Why didn't they do that before the last 4 games that Paul missed?
How about some context here? He battled foul trouble in some games, got injured/was coming back from injury in some games, was ineffective in some games, and some games were blowouts, so he sat in garbage time. Competitive games where he was healthy, effective and not in foul trouble, he generally played a lot of minutes. Seems right to me.
If I played NBA 2K all night long I would not have the stamina tooShabazz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:59 pmHow about some context here? He battled foul trouble in some games, got injured/was coming back from injury in some games, was ineffective in some games, and some games were blowouts, so he sat in garbage time. Competitive games where he was healthy, effective and not in foul trouble, he generally played a lot of minutes. Seems right to me.
There's also the possibility that he doesn't have the stamina to play 38 minutes a night. 31 minutes a night is only 2 fewer than Jokic averages.