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Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:55 am
by In2ition
I tend to think that Hayward, Parsons, Bledsoe, and Gortat will all get more than their suggested AAV. In fact, if history is any indication, all the top FAs will get more than suggested.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:59 am
by SwingMan
Shabazz wrote:SwingMan wrote:Shabazz wrote:Swing's brain just exploded.
Getting pretty high with half-stories, are you?

Huh? That was in response to paying Frye $8M/year.
Yeah, I know - was my attempt at humor, seeing how you're among those here who were praising Frye's value to the team. Damn, I'm mis-understood.

Apologies for the abstractionism.
That said, I hardly see how the aforementioned group could find fault with giving Frye $8 million per for being such a valuable decoy.
And yes, my brain is indeed reaching critical mass over such spending.....
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:04 pm
by SwingMan
Aztec Sunsfan wrote:I already predicted that Frye in way was opting out seeking for a contract under 5mill per year, but 8mill would be ridicoulous. And the Suns would be nuts to offer him something along that much.
I like the guy, but I think he is as good as gone, someone is going to throw at least 6.5 on his way, and I hope the Suns stay away from amounts above 6, regarding Frye, unless we get Lebron. Other wise, we are years away from contention and therefore in need of overpaying specialists.
Frye was worth nothing near what he made this past season - I guess it's gonna take some sucker to have him on their own team seeing first hand to realize that.
Buh-bye, Frye - can't blame you for wanting to seek greener pastures, but I wouldn't keep you and your half-dimension around at any price.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:06 pm
by TOO
SwingMan wrote:Aztec Sunsfan wrote:I already predicted that Frye in way was opting out seeking for a contract under 5mill per year, but 8mill would be ridicoulous. And the Suns would be nuts to offer him something along that much.
I like the guy, but I think he is as good as gone, someone is going to throw at least 6.5 on his way, and I hope the Suns stay away from amounts above 6, regarding Frye, unless we get Lebron. Other wise, we are years away from contention and therefore in need of overpaying specialists.
Frye was worth nothing near what he made this past season - I guess it's gonna take some sucker to have him on their own team seeing first hand to realize that.
Buh-bye, Frye - can't blame you for wanting to seek greener pastures, but I wouldn't keep you and your half-dimension around at any price.
But the advanced metrics!
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:13 pm
by Shabazz
SwingMan wrote:Shabazz wrote:SwingMan wrote:Shabazz wrote:Swing's brain just exploded.
Getting pretty high with half-stories, are you?

Huh? That was in response to paying Frye $8M/year.
Yeah, I know - was my attempt at humor, seeing how you're among those here who were praising Frye's value to the team. Damn, I'm mis-understood.

Apologies for the abstractionism.
That said, I hardly see how the aforementioned group could find fault with giving Frye $8 million per for being such a valuable decoy.
And yes, my brain is indeed reaching critical mass over such spending.....
Well, in our previous discussion, I was talking about his offensive contributions. I qualified that.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:31 pm
by SwingMan
Shabazz wrote:SwingMan wrote:Shabazz wrote:SwingMan wrote:Shabazz wrote:Swing's brain just exploded.
Getting pretty high with half-stories, are you?

Huh? That was in response to paying Frye $8M/year.
Yeah, I know - was my attempt at humor, seeing how you're among those here who were praising Frye's value to the team. Damn, I'm mis-understood.

Apologies for the abstractionism.
That said, I hardly see how the aforementioned group could find fault with giving Frye $8 million per for being such a valuable decoy.
And yes, my brain is indeed reaching critical mass over such spending.....
Well, in our previous discussion, I was talking about his offensive contributions. I qualified that.
I know - there's been others here as well. Thought I made that clear above.
Just that I see such stuff as folks not being able to see the forest for the trees. is all.....
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:32 pm
by SwingMan
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:SwingMan wrote:Aztec Sunsfan wrote:I already predicted that Frye in way was opting out seeking for a contract under 5mill per year, but 8mill would be ridicoulous. And the Suns would be nuts to offer him something along that much.
I like the guy, but I think he is as good as gone, someone is going to throw at least 6.5 on his way, and I hope the Suns stay away from amounts above 6, regarding Frye, unless we get Lebron. Other wise, we are years away from contention and therefore in need of overpaying specialists.
Frye was worth nothing near what he made this past season - I guess it's gonna take some sucker to have him on their own team seeing first hand to realize that.
Buh-bye, Frye - can't blame you for wanting to seek greener pastures, but I wouldn't keep you and your half-dimension around at any price.
But the advanced metrics!
Ok - NOW my damn brain is exploding.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:09 pm
by Mori Chu
I think we should make a strong pitch to Hayward and Monroe to come be our frontcourt of the future. Id pay them more than the numbers in that site. FAs have to get big money or they don't come. Also the cap is going to skyrocket in a couple years.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:16 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
I think Frye indeed makes contributions to the team. The price tag was fixed years ago, in a market that pays forward over past performance and potential, so cases like Frye's is common ground for many teams. I'm not talking about fairness about his next contract, this league is nothing about fairness when it comes to the "next" contract. Frye is about to explode the system on his favor, good for him, just hoping the Suns had a clear line about it.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:56 pm
by carey
Finally some good news for Swingy.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/484182337714810881
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:15 pm
by TOO
McBob would add another passer we desperately need.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:20 pm
by Shabazz
Won't someone think of the rebounding!!
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:26 pm
by TOO
What are REBUNZ?
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:03 pm
by TOO
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /11910441/
Phoenix Suns managing partner Robert Sarver expressed confidence that the Suns have a lot to sell LeBron James if or when the team gets an audience with him. "We are in a good position," he said. "We have a lot to offer, too, with the depth of our roster compared to some of the other teams. We think we have a favorable opportunity, but obviously he'll make his decision when he wants to make it.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:42 pm
by Superbone
carey wrote:Finally some good news for Swingy.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/484182337714810881
Popular dude!
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:46 pm
by SwingMan
carey wrote:Finally some good news for Swingy.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/484182337714810881
Shit - we'll probably lose out on him chasing the primadonna pipe dream that is LeBron James.....
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:02 am
by Shabazz
Coro:
The Suns also have made contact with or been contacted by at least 12 other free agents. That includes unrestricted free agents Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng, Spencer Hawes, Danny Granger, Ed Davis, Marvin Williams and Josh McRoberts and restricted free agents Gordon Hayward, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas and Patrick Patterson. That does not necessarily mean the Suns are interested in all of them.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /11959299/
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:05 am
by SwingMan
Shabazz wrote:Coro:
The Suns also have made contact with or been contacted by at least 12 other free agents. That includes unrestricted free agents Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng, Spencer Hawes, Danny Granger, Ed Davis, Marvin Williams and Josh McRoberts and restricted free agents Gordon Hayward, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas and Patrick Patterson. That does not necessarily mean the Suns are interested in all of them.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /11959299/
Just got through reading that - gotta think the Frye mention was for his benefit only.....
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:44 am
by Mori Chu
Did Danny Granger have anything left in the tank last season? Or was he basically washed up?
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:02 am
by Sunsfan4life
Whats the deal with Bledsoe?
I haven't heard anything regarding us or anyone else talking to him?