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I could see a three team trade this summer with Cleveland, Minnesota and Phx. Swapping Bledsoe, Rubio, and Irving with some assets involved from the teams.

Bledsoe to Cleveland, Kyrie to Minny and Rubio here actually makes some sense. If we could trade Knight to the Knicks? Yes, please!

OE32 wrote:I prefer Mirza. Guys like him have tremendous value in this league. Leuer is just a guy.

He strikes me as not good enough to be your starting PF, not so good PF from the bench in a contender, but over qualified as your back up PF during a rebuilding. Leuer is a bench big who contributes without disrupting, a notch below Mirza offensively, but more balanced production along the stat line, while if Mirza is cold, do little else for you.

Since no one could be a full time starter for us, having both of them from the bench is redundant. I would prefer to keep Leuer fighting for minutes with a developing young player, since I guess Mirza would demand preference.

Aztec Sunsfan wrote:Since no one could be a full time starter for us, having both of them from the bench is redundant. I would prefer to keep Leuer fighting for minutes with a developing young player, since I guess Mirza would demand preference.

That's a fair point. Sometimes what you really want is "just a guy." Plus I could see him sticking around on our bench for a number of years, content to be the last big off the bench.

ShelC wrote:Bledsoe to Cleveland, Kyrie to Minny and Rubio here actually makes some sense. If we could trade Knight to the Knicks? Yes, please!

Still think we swap Bledsoe for Kyrie, no Rubio involved.

There'd have to be other assets involved, wouldn't there? Surely Kyrie Irving can fetch a better return than Bledsoe.

Cap wrote:There'd have to be other assets involved, wouldn't there? Surely Kyrie Irving can fetch a better return than Bledsoe.

Lebron says Jump, David Griffin says how high.

Cap wrote:There'd have to be other assets involved, wouldn't there? Surely Kyrie Irving can fetch a better return than Bledsoe.

I would have to imagine he could easily get more than that.

Ring_Wanted wrote:Speaking of stretch PF, have you seen Frye playing for the Cavs? He is doing pretty well. Visibly more active and energized, and his numbers are outstanding for the role he plays. 15mpg, 7.7ppg, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 0.4 TOs. 47'7% 3pt on four attempts.

Plus he headbutted Lyles the other night for hitting him in the nuts.

Didn't someone punch frye in the nuts when he was here? KG I wanna say...

Cap wrote:There'd have to be other assets involved, wouldn't there? Surely Kyrie Irving can fetch a better return than Bledsoe.

Probably. Might cost us Warren then we draft Brown out of Cal if we dont land in the top 2? I'm not sure I like that scenario.

Irving-Booker-Brown-?-Len with Knight as 6th man & Chandler as 7th. That hole at PF is a problem. Maybe Sabonis with the Washington pick?

Sunsfan4life wrote:

Ring_Wanted wrote:Speaking of stretch PF, have you seen Frye playing for the Cavs? He is doing pretty well. Visibly more active and energized, and his numbers are outstanding for the role he plays. 15mpg, 7.7ppg, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 0.4 TOs. 47'7% 3pt on four attempts.

Plus he headbutted Lyles the other night for hitting him in the nuts.

Didn't someone punch frye in the nuts when he was here? KG I wanna say...

You can say it!

Sunsfan4life wrote:

Ring_Wanted wrote:Speaking of stretch PF, have you seen Frye playing for the Cavs? He is doing pretty well. Visibly more active and energized, and his numbers are outstanding for the role he plays. 15mpg, 7.7ppg, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 0.4 TOs. 47'7% 3pt on four attempts.

Plus he headbutted Lyles the other night for hitting him in the nuts.

Eh. It was more of a head-touch than a butt. There was no force behind it, he was just getting in Lyles' face.

ShelC wrote: If we could trade Knight to the Knicks? Yes, please!

I'd (gladly) take Calderon, Jerian Grant, and Kyle O'Quinn and call it a day.

In2ition wrote:I could see a three team trade this summer with Cleveland, Minnesota and Phx. Swapping Bledsoe, Rubio, and Irving with some assets involved from the teams.

PLEASE YES.

INFORMER wrote:

ShelC wrote: If we could trade Knight to the Knicks? Yes, please!

I'd (gladly) take Calderon, Jerian Grant, and Kyle O'Quinn and call it a day.

I'm on board... Calderón from the bench I asume?

This O'Quinn guy, would make it worth to go PF by comitee into the season?

Keeping Teletovic and Leuer and giving them 15-20 mins each as matchups dictates, with 18 fouls to deliver.

Mori Chu wrote:

In2ition wrote:I could see a three team trade this summer with Cleveland, Minnesota and Phx. Swapping Bledsoe, Rubio, and Irving with some assets involved from the teams.

PLEASE YES.

Interesting,

How would you make it fair for the three teams?

What assets into the deal, without making it too big to be real? I'm worried that Irving is a bit overvalued, due to his comercial exposure.

Tucker to CLE, Bjelica to PHX.

Bledsoe + Tucker = Irving?

I don't think Cleveland would do it, unless Lebron force them to. I could see at least a 2nd rounder, more likely a late first (their own maybe?) going to the Cavs. What about going all in, asking for Love, with Teletovic, Bledsoe, Warren and their pick going their way? Would it be enough?

Plus, if the next coach keeps PJ under 20mins per game, I would like him to stay next to Warren, if only to put pressure on the kid to grow and put effort in both ends. Besides, guys like Tucker always are more valuable to trade in february than in the offseason, the tradeline brings to your door desperate contenders, while in the offseason, a cold minded GM could even call him a throw in (age, contract, declining habilities)

Aztec Sunsfan wrote:Bledsoe + Tucker = Irving?

I don't think Cleveland would do it, unless Lebron force them to. I could see at least a 2nd rounder, more likely a late first (their own maybe?) going to the Cavs. What about going all in, asking for Love, with Teletovic, Bledsoe, Warren and their pick going their way? Would it be enough?

Plus, if the next coach keeps PJ under 20mins per game, I would like him to stay next to Warren, if only to put pressure on the kid to grow and put effort in both ends. Besides, guys like Tucker always are more valuable to trade in february than in the offseason, the tradeline brings to your door desperate contenders, while in the offseason, a cold minded GM could even call him a throw in (age, contract, declining habilities)

You know without a doubt they are keeping Watson, right?

Indy wrote:You know without a doubt they are keeping Watson, right?

I don't think they can. He's clearly outmatched as a head coach right now. He's got a good philosophy but he's in over his head. I assume it is evident to anyone with half a brain watching.