REPORT: Gregg Popovich would love to have the opportunity to develop DeAndre Ayton into a superstar caliber player.
- Popovich says Ayton is worth the max contract and he wants the San Antonio Spurs to make a strong push for him this offseason.
(via SA today)
Coach Pop knows.
I'm pretty confident Pop never said this because this would be a clear case of tampering since he's not a free agent yet.
I do believe Pop could be Ayton’s best option to maximize his career. I just hope JJ gonna fleece the f out of any team who becomes our trade partner.
Dejounte and Ayton. I think Ayton would be successful there, but that teams got a ceiling that probably doesn’t even get them out of the 1st round. I like Dejounte, but he’s miscast as the primary option. He should be like a Rubio, just with more on ball juice.
I know I have said it a lot, too, but putting Ayton in the top 5 is debatable. Clearly you have Jokic and Embiid. After that: Ayton, KAT, Gobert, Bam, AD (he played more 5 than 4), Sabonis, Vuc, JV. I am not saying I put all these guys above him, but I think it is debatable if he is top 5. Some GMs will have at least 3 of those guys ahead of him. He is certainly top 10--I doubt any GM would have him lower than that.
Looking at this has images of Roger Dorn running around in my head...
You’ve got to imagine they’ve talked this shit out with him. And being in the pick and roll is no excuse. Amare as a diver with Nash had like 7-9 FTAs. It’s a matter of going to the rim and taking contact. Ayton while he goes for his quick shots in the paint, should have by now realized that when he’s contested to go at the rim and get contact. It’s mindnumbing.
And...there it is...It’s mindnumbing!
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 4:47 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
The unintentional comedy on that FLEX tweet is off the charts. The random Booker gif is just.. <chefs kiss>
I know I have said it a lot, too, but putting Ayton in the top 5 is debatable. Clearly you have Jokic and Embiid. After that: Ayton, KAT, Gobert, Bam, AD (he played more 5 than 4), Sabonis, Vuc, JV. I am not saying I put all these guys above him, but I think it is debatable if he is top 5. Some GMs will have at least 3 of those guys ahead of him. He is certainly top 10--I doubt any GM would have him lower than that.
He is a better rebounder and can create for others and himself.
... while being non-existent as a rim protector and defender, Indy. If we talk about Vucevic. With him instead of DA our defence would deteriorate big time.
He is a better rebounder and can create for others and himself.
... while being non-existent as a rim protector and defender, Indy. If we talk about Vucevic. With him instead of DA our defence would deteriorate big time.
And Ayton (19.0) has a higher career rebound percentage than Vucevic (18.6).
He is a better rebounder and can create for others and himself.
... while being non-existent as a rim protector and defender, Indy. If we talk about Vucevic. With him instead of DA our defence would deteriorate big time.
And Ayton (19.0) has a higher career rebound percentage than Vucevic (18.6).
I'd take Ayton over Vucevic every day and twice on Sunday but Vucevic isn't being paid the max. Unfortunately though, that appears to be the going rate for Ayton so you either pay it or go a different direction.
He is a better rebounder and can create for others and himself.
... while being non-existent as a rim protector and defender, Indy. If we talk about Vucevic. With him instead of DA our defence would deteriorate big time.
And Ayton (19.0) has a higher career rebound percentage than Vucevic (18.6).
I'd take Ayton over Vucevic every day and twice on Sunday but Vucevic isn't being paid the max. Unfortunately though, that appears to be the going rate for Ayton so you either pay it or go a different direction.
And we'd have to deal with Vučević's unrestricted free agency in 2023.
He is a better rebounder and can create for others and himself.
... while being non-existent as a rim protector and defender, Indy. If we talk about Vucevic. With him instead of DA our defence would deteriorate big time.
And Ayton (19.0) has a higher career rebound percentage than Vucevic (18.6).
#AlternativeFacts
#HeAintNoBjelicaThough
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:54 pm
by JeremyG
Haha guys my only point with Vucevic was that you can be an All-Star center without getting to the line.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:27 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Since its the silly season...
Ayton in trade to Oklahoma for Shai, #2, and some other combination of players? Thoughts? I'd like to get their 2 AND 12, but that seems like it would be less workable...
Ayton in trade to Oklahoma for Shai, #2, and some other combination of players? Thoughts? I'd like to get their 2 AND 12, but that seems like it would be less workable...
VT
I wish this were in some way reasonable, but OKC wouldn't touch this. Shot creation outweighs big guys.
Ayton in trade to Oklahoma for Shai, #2, and some other combination of players? Thoughts? I'd like to get their 2 AND 12, but that seems like it would be less workable...
VT
I wish this were in some way reasonable, but OKC wouldn't touch this. Shot creation outweighs big guys.
Ayton in trade to Oklahoma for Shai, #2, and some other combination of players? Thoughts? I'd like to get their 2 AND 12, but that seems like it would be less workable...
VT
Presti would hang up before Jones could finish saying Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. And that's before even mentioning their #2 pick.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:56 pm
by Split T
Ya I think OKC says no to either piece(SGA or #2).
Side note, anyone remember when I said I’d trade DA for SGA a few years back…if only.
Ayton in trade to Oklahoma for Shai, #2, and some other combination of players? Thoughts? I'd like to get their 2 AND 12, but that seems like it would be less workable...
VT
I wish this were in some way reasonable, but OKC wouldn't touch this. Shot creation outweighs big guys.
You put way to much weight on one stat.
No, the current NBA game values one thing more than the other
Ayton in trade to Oklahoma for Shai, #2, and some other combination of players? Thoughts? I'd like to get their 2 AND 12, but that seems like it would be less workable...
VT
Presti would hang up before Jones could finish saying Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. And that's before even mentioning their #2 pick.
Yeah that’s not a realistic trade offer. You may get just the #2 pick from them, but you’re not getting SGA for DA.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:38 pm
by Drewsprocket
VT is on fire.
I’ve had a couple days of not thinking about Ayton. Who knew that there are other things to think about in life? I’m convinced that whatever transpired this post season (COVID + Injuries + No Show Bench), JJ’s roster moves will make them a more resilient team. GSW, Mem, Den, Mavs, and NOLA are going to be tough to beat next year.
VT is on fire.
I’ve had a couple days of not thinking about Ayton. Who knew that there are other things to think about in life? I’m convinced that whatever transpired this post season (COVID + Injuries + No Show Bench), JJ’s roster moves will make them a more resilient team. GSW, Mem, Den, Mavs, and NOLA are going to be tough to beat next year.
Drew, rather be thinking about Ayton than Ukraine, threat of China starting WWII by going after Taiwan, COVID resurge, crashing stocks, school shootings, insanity of '1/2' the country screaming about imaginary voter fraud while seeking to boost politicians willing to back plans to forment overturning an election, ... I could go on...but meh, I float trade fantasies instead...less depressing...