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Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:33 pm
by Indy
Superbone wrote:NBA expected to approve player-resting rules

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 556173001/
The reduction in 4 in 5 nights and back to backs is good. They need to just go to a shorter season, but still start the week earlier. If they can get down to 10 back to back games a year, that would be great.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:35 pm
by Indy
Oh, and if they could do stands with teams, that would be ideal for when you play the same team twice on your home court anyway. If you want to do a back to back, do it with two games against the lakers, kings, warriors, and clippers at AWA, and the same in their arenas. That cuts down on travel for BOTH teams in a back to back situation.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:12 pm
by Superbone
Bledsoe will like it if it will prevent teams from shutting down healthy players so that they can "get a look at the young guys".

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:29 pm
by Split T
Superbone wrote:Bledsoe will like it if it will prevent teams from shutting down healthy players so that they can "get a look at the young guys".
If we have to shutdown the vets again, we just need to trade them instead.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:00 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote:
Superbone wrote:Bledsoe will like it if it will prevent teams from shutting down healthy players so that they can "get a look at the young guys".
If we have to shutdown the vets again, we just need to trade them instead.
ding ding ding

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:51 pm
by Cap
Split T wrote:
Superbone wrote:Bledsoe will like it if it will prevent teams from shutting down healthy players so that they can "get a look at the young guys".
If we have to shutdown the vets again, we just need to trade them instead.
No, we just need to ensure that they're actually hurt. :twisted:

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:19 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
NY and Houston are re engaging in Melo-Talks. The biggest burden seems to be the need for a third team to take on Anderson's awful contract. Would you offer to take him in exchange of Knight? No other assets in or out just about $6mill on cap relief for the other teams.

From our point of view, it would be like getting Anderson for $6mill given that Brandon is dead weight for $13 already in our cap. If Chriss is shipped out with Bledsoe, we would need a starting PF and this guy seems likely to accept a role within the timeline, as Bender develops.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:04 pm
by In2ition
Aztec Sunsfan wrote:NY and Houston are re engaging in Melo-Talks. The biggest burden seems to be the need for a third team to take on Anderson's awful contract. Would you offer to take him in exchange of Knight? No other assets in or out just about $6mill on cap relief for the other teams.

From our point of view, it would be like getting Anderson for $6mill given that Brandon is dead weight for $13 already in our cap. If Chriss is shipped out with Bledsoe, we would need a starting PF and this guy seems likely to accept a role within the timeline, as Bender develops.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Warren at PF.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:20 pm
by Cap
In2ition wrote:
Aztec Sunsfan wrote:NY and Houston are re engaging in Melo-Talks. The biggest burden seems to be the need for a third team to take on Anderson's awful contract. Would you offer to take him in exchange of Knight? No other assets in or out just about $6mill on cap relief for the other teams.

From our point of view, it would be like getting Anderson for $6mill given that Brandon is dead weight for $13 already in our cap. If Chriss is shipped out with Bledsoe, we would need a starting PF and this guy seems likely to accept a role within the timeline, as Bender develops.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Warren at PF.
With his rebounding rate, he's a prototypical Suns PF.

That's not a good thing, but at least we're used to it.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:21 pm
by carey
In2ition wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Warren at PF.
Why?

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:22 pm
by Cap
carey wrote:
In2ition wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Warren at PF.
Why?
It's a tank season, so what do we have to lose?

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:27 pm
by carey
Cap wrote:
carey wrote:
In2ition wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Warren at PF.
Why?
It's a tank season, so what do we have to lose?
Another player we force to play out of position?

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:39 pm
by Split T
I think Warren makes more sense as a PF than SF

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:06 pm
by Cap
carey wrote:
Cap wrote:
carey wrote:
In2ition wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Warren at PF.
Why?
It's a tank season, so what do we have to lose?
Another player we force to play out of position?
It's a contract year. Deflate his value, like we did with Len. :twisted:

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:58 pm
by In2ition
The whole thing with Warren at PF, is that he's done well there. It gives an advantage to the Suns if they were to run the other teams. He's 6'9", so it's not like he's way undersized, and it allows the Suns to put their best players on the floor. Ultimately, perhaps he's better off the bench, but I really think people are sleeping on him and he could have a BIG year. Too bad we don't have a Nash type or D'Antoni type coach and offense.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:43 am
by carey
He's not Shawn Marion. I am not sure he can defend PFs consistently, but maybe he can. I think the biggest problem with extended time there is what happens to Chriss and Bender as a result. One of them is already going to be squeezed into minutes at Center. If we re-sign Len things are going to be strangely crowded in our front court.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:22 am
by Split T
He's not great at defending SF's either. Plus most teams PF's aren't the PF's of 10 years ago. He's not gonna give you much rim protection, so you need to play him with a rim protecting 5. He's also not Marion on the boards, but he was rebounding well last year towards the end of the season.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:53 am
by JCSunsfan
Indy wrote:Oh, and if they could do stands with teams, that would be ideal for when you play the same team twice on your home court anyway. If you want to do a back to back, do it with two games against the lakers, kings, warriors, and clippers at AWA, and the same in their arenas. That cuts down on travel for BOTH teams in a back to back situation.
I agree with you on this. Even a two game series would be preferable. It would cut down on travel expenses too.

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:55 am
by JCSunsfan
In2ition wrote:The whole thing with Warren at PF, is that he's done well there. It gives an advantage to the Suns if they were to run the other teams. He's 6'9", so it's not like he's way undersized, and it allows the Suns to put their best players on the floor. Ultimately, perhaps he's better off the bench, but I really think people are sleeping on him and he could have a BIG year. Too bad we don't have a Nash type or D'Antoni type coach and offense.
When did he grow from 6-8 to 6-9?

Re: Around the League: The Offseason

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:15 am
by O_Gardino
JCSunsfan wrote:
In2ition wrote:The whole thing with Warren at PF, is that he's done well there. It gives an advantage to the Suns if they were to run the other teams. He's 6'9", so it's not like he's way undersized, and it allows the Suns to put their best players on the floor. Ultimately, perhaps he's better off the bench, but I really think people are sleeping on him and he could have a BIG year. Too bad we don't have a Nash type or D'Antoni type coach and offense.
When did he grow from 6-8 to 6-9?
Little by little since he came into the nba. The reports came out last season, but it's not uncommon for guys to grow a bit after the draft measurements.