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Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:51 pm
by JJ Slim
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:49 pm
In2, I know it's an emotional moment, but you're out of line.
No Mori, YOU are out of line. In2intion is exactly right. This was an assassination attempt. And this was brought on by all the hateful rhetoric from Democrats and the main stream media that feed you constant lies and then people like you believe it and get filled up with hate. They say conservatives and people that support Trump are Nazis and racists. They say we are stupid, uneducated backwoods hicks that just believe anything we are told. They turn on their friends and family simply because they support a different political party. I'm surprised this hadn't happened sooner. Many of us have been worried about this exact thing for a very long time. Can you tell me honestly that you haven't in your mind hoped that someone would kill Trump? I mean if you could go back and kill Hitler before he rose to power wouldn't you? That is exactly what Democrats have been saying is that he is Hitler and going to be a dictator. All lies. Remember Steve Scalise getting shot at a baseball game practice where Republicans were targeted? Remember the person that came all the way across the country to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh? Maybe you don't because main stream media doesn't cover it or leaves out pertinent details or twists them.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:53 pm
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:49 pm
In2, I know it's an emotional moment, but you're out of line.
For telling it how it is? Ok
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:54 pm
by JJ Slim
Not true. He was shot. From a "source"?
One inch more and Trump would be dead.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:00 pm
by Kryptonic
Both sides have been out of line for years.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:08 pm
by JJ Slim
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:00 pm
Both sides have been out of line for years.
That's what is always said when something happens that is blamed on the left - "We need to calm the rhetoric down on both sides" FK that! There is only one side that is violent and full of hate and it's not the right.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:13 pm
by TOO
I'm just sad he didn't finish the job.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:15 pm
by JJ Slim
TOO wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:13 pm
I'm just sad he didn't finish the job.
I hope that's a joke. If not I can't say much else.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:52 pm
by JJ Slim
I'll say two more things before I sign off for the night. We might think Joe Biden is a terrible president and all sorts of other rotten things. But we still pray for his health and safety and that he succeeds as President. We would NEVER wish for any harm to come to him.
Secondly if this wasn't a radical hateful leftist that did this then the only other option is that this was a terrorist that crossed our border illegally likely under orders from a country that fears Trump such as Iran, Russia, China, North Korea or Hamas. More likely the former though but we shall see.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:54 pm
by virtual9mm
JJ Slim wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:15 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:13 pm
I'm just sad he didn't finish the job.
I hope that's a joke. If not I can't say much else.
Always took you for a liberal, JJ. But, things change.
This is serious stuff. If a Dem shoots at Trump, what prevents MAGA from shooting Biden? Folks -- this is where the US destabilizes and we get Civil War the Movie (less California and Texas being on the same side).
Best case, we get the summer of 1969. Worst case, it will trigger some kind of civil war.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:58 pm
by virtual9mm
Always the same pattern in American politics. Liberals try something beyond established norms and Conservatives push back on this 300x harder. I bet you that MAGA does political violence far better than the Democrats.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:15 pm
by JJ Slim
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:54 pm
Always took you for a liberal, JJ. But, things change.
I used to be or maybe I still am. But what has changed is the Democrat party has gone too far left and radical.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:03 pm
by In2ition
Was this appropriate rhetoric?
These people are deranged.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:23 pm
by virtual9mm
JJ Slim wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:15 pm
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:54 pm
Always took you for a liberal, JJ. But, things change.
I used to be or maybe I still am. But what has changed is the Democrat party has gone too far left and radical.
I am not surprised and can understand why the Democratic party lost you. Unlike In2, you have been careful and measured in your thoughts.
My wife is kind of a well known artist in HK and was effectively cancelled by some academics in Canada because she proposed a cultural hybrid of Chinese pot luck and indigenous potlatch to bring the cultures together. How dare that a non native do anything with native culture. Never mind that the native Americans were cool with it and it was the white liberals up in arms.
An association was recently hosting one of the Ivy presidents in HK and when she said "I'm still here" she got a standing ovation.
Liberal America is seriously ill. If Trump weren't such an existential threat to American democracy, I would be railing on it, too. But I am an educated Asian American, which will put me in MAGA's crosshairs soon enough. Not everyone is racist and anti elite, of course. But enough will be...and the ones who aren't will not do much to stop them.
I'm pulling out whatever I have left in the US and will be asking my family members to do the same.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:20 pm
by In2ition
Dude?!? Wtf?
Trump is an "existential threat to American democracy", but I'm not careful or measured? Oh ok.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:40 pm
by Nodack
JJ Slim wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:51 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:49 pm
In2, I know it's an emotional moment, but you're out of line.
No Mori, YOU are out of line. In2intion is exactly right. This was an assassination attempt. And this was brought on by all the hateful rhetoric from Democrats and the main stream media that feed you constant lies and then people like you believe it and get filled up with hate. They say conservatives and people that support Trump are Nazis and racists. They say we are stupid, uneducated backwoods hicks that just believe anything we are told. They turn on their friends and family simply because they support a different political party. I'm surprised this hadn't happened sooner. Many of us have been worried about this exact thing for a very long time. Can you tell me honestly that you haven't in your mind hoped that someone would kill Trump? I mean if you could go back and kill Hitler before he rose to power wouldn't you? That is exactly what Democrats have been saying is that he is Hitler and going to be a dictator. All lies. Remember Steve Scalise getting shot at a baseball game practice where Republicans were targeted? Remember the person that came all the way across the country to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh? Maybe you don't because main stream media doesn't cover it or leaves out pertinent details or twists them.
You see all these lies and hate from Dems and not a shred of hate from the Cons and Trump never lies? All I can say is we all live on completely different planets. .
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:26 pm
by JeremyG
No wonder Trump said he was ok with being sentenced to jail. He is safer there!
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:37 pm
by virtual9mm
In2ition wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:20 pm
Dude?!? Wtf?
Trump is an "existential threat to American democracy", but I'm not careful or measured? Oh ok.
If he wins, he is effectively a dictator. The US as we knew it will be no more after he wins, which is likely.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:53 pm
by Kryptonic
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:37 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:20 pm
Dude?!? Wtf?
Trump is an "existential threat to American democracy", but I'm not careful or measured? Oh ok.
If he wins, he is effectively a dictator. The US as we knew it will be no more after he wins, which is likely.
Unfortunately no matter what side wins one side is going to feel like democracy has ended.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:58 pm
by virtual9mm
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:53 pm
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:37 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:20 pm
Dude?!? Wtf?
Trump is an "existential threat to American democracy", but I'm not careful or measured? Oh ok.
If he wins, he is effectively a dictator. The US as we knew it will be no more after he wins, which is likely.
Unfortunately no matter what side wins one side is going to feel like democracy has ended.
Civil War scenario, not necessarily like the first one, more just massive unrest, shootings, bombings, all that good stuff. I don't want any part of it.
Re: Trump 2024
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:19 pm
by Mori Chu
The shooter was apparently a registered Republican. But he also gave money to a "blue" cause? We don't know much about him yet.