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Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:56 am
by O_Gardino
Regarding Oubre, I love the guy's activity on defense, and I love how active he is around the basket. Obvs he's great on the break, and his energy is infectious.
He's got a couple of things going for him with this squad: He knows how to scramble and make plays when the offense or defense scheme breaks down, and he knows how to take advantage of the mismatch when he has a big man on him. Those situations happen a lot with this squad.
Is he as good next year if get a legit PF? And, what's the value proposition of keeping some combo of Oubre, Warren , and Bridges? I think Oubre is the most valuable of the 3 this season, but Bridges can eclipse him next year, especially if we get a better PG and a real PF.
All that might be moot. We've got 4 SFs, and I think you might have to trade any of them that other teams want. If someone really wants Bridges or Oubre in exchange for a legit player, that's the guy I send in a trade.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:11 am
by Cap
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:56 am
Regarding Oubre, I love the guy's activity on defense, and I love how active he is around the basket. Obvs he's great on the break, and his energy is infectious.
He's got a couple of things going for him with this squad: He knows how to scramble and make plays when the offense or defense scheme breaks down, and he knows how to take advantage of the mismatch when he has a big man on him. Those situations happen a lot with this squad.
Is he as good next year if get a legit PF? And, what's the value proposition of keeping some combo of Oubre, Warren , and Bridges? I think Oubre is the most valuable of the 3 this season, but Bridges can eclipse him next year, especially if we get a better PG and a real PF.
All that might be moot. We've got 4 SFs, and I think you might have to trade any of them that other teams want. If someone really wants Bridges or Oubre in exchange for a legit player, that's the guy I send in a trade.
Yup. Re-signing Oubre makes sense only if we can trade Warren and/or Jackson for help at a position of need. And “re-sign first, figure out a trade later” is a dangerous tactic. You need to have a trade or agreement in place first.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:14 am
by Superbone
Are you kidding me? After losing a franchise record 17 games in a row, we've won 4 out of the last 5 including beating LeBron and the Lakers and then the NBA leading Bucks? Crazy. OK, I hope the karma gods aren't going to strike me down but I think we finally hit our rock bottom and are on our way out of the hole. Gives me some optimism going forward. Especially, if we can get an experienced basketball guy to join the front office soonish.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:19 am
by In2ition
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:14 am
Are you kidding me? After losing a franchise record 17 games in a row, we've won 4 out of the last 5 including beating LeBron and the Lakers and then the NBA leading Bucks? Crazy. OK, I hope the karma gods aren't going to strike me down but I think we finally hit our rock bottom and are on our way out of the hole. Gives me some optimism going forward. Especially, if we can get an experienced basketball guy to join the front office soonish.
The next 4 games will test this group.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:40 am
by jonh
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:19 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:14 am
Are you kidding me? After losing a franchise record 17 games in a row, we've won 4 out of the last 5 including beating LeBron and the Lakers and then the NBA leading Bucks? Crazy. OK, I hope the karma gods aren't going to strike me down but I think we finally hit our rock bottom and are on our way out of the hole. Gives me some optimism going forward. Especially, if we can get an experienced basketball guy to join the front office soonish.
The next 4 games will test this group.
I dont have any expectations of the Suns beating good teams on the road. Im just grateful to have the last few games.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:55 am
by Superbone
jonh wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:40 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:19 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:14 am
Are you kidding me? After losing a franchise record 17 games in a row, we've won 4 out of the last 5 including beating LeBron and the Lakers and then the NBA leading Bucks? Crazy. OK, I hope the karma gods aren't going to strike me down but I think we finally hit our rock bottom and are on our way out of the hole. Gives me some optimism going forward. Especially, if we can get an experienced basketball guy to join the front office soonish.
The next 4 games will test this group.
I dont have any expectations of the Suns beating good teams on the road. Im just grateful to have the last few games.
Yep, me either. I just want to see us continue to be competitive and not get blown out.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:43 pm
by JeremyG
Oubre is definitely expecting to get paid. He even told the Burns and Gambo show this week that he considers himself to be a “superstar” player and that he’s trying to show he’s worth that type of money!
He basically admitted that he’s playing for a contract.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:06 pm
by jonh
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:43 pm
Oubre is definitely expecting to get paid. He even told the Burns and Gambo show this week that he considers himself to be a “superstar” player and that he’s trying to show he’s worth that type of money!
He basically admitted that he’s playing for a contract.
It'll be interesting to see how much he commands this summer. He can feel he is worth that kind of money, but its all about what the external market thinks.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:06 pm
by carey
Lots of teams have money this Summer.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:08 pm
by JeremyG
How about signing Russell (perhaps via S&T) and Randle. I bet we could be a playoff team just by adding two Lakers castoffs.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:31 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:08 pm
How about signing Russell (perhaps via S&T) and Randle. I bet we could be a playoff team just by adding two Lakers castoffs.
Russell is gonna get paid....can’t see how we’d have space to sign both those guys unless Brooklyn foolishly took Tyler Johnson back in a S&T
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:32 pm
by JCSunsfan
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:31 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:08 pm
How about signing Russell (perhaps via S&T) and Randle. I bet we could be a playoff team just by adding two Lakers castoffs.
Russell is gonna get paid....can’t see how we’d have space to sign both those guys unless Brooklyn foolishly took Tyler Johnson back in a S&T
No way Brooklyn is letting Russell go. They are seeing him as a star player now. They will match anything.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:40 am
by Split T
JCSunsfan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:32 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:31 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:08 pm
How about signing Russell (perhaps via S&T) and Randle. I bet we could be a playoff team just by adding two Lakers castoffs.
Russell is gonna get paid....can’t see how we’d have space to sign both those guys unless Brooklyn foolishly took Tyler Johnson back in a S&T
No way Brooklyn is letting Russell go. They are seeing him as a star player now. They will match anything.
I agree, Russell won’t be available. I can’t see Brogdon being available either. Our FA pg class looks like Rozier, Wright, Rubio
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:55 am
by Xylus
I don't watch the Nets often at all. How well do D'Lo and Dinwiddie co-exist? Seems like they're going to have a lot of money tied up in their two point guards. Or do they play D'Lo at SG?
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:45 am
by wpmiller42
Split T wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:40 am
JCSunsfan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:32 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:31 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:08 pm
How about signing Russell (perhaps via S&T) and Randle. I bet we could be a playoff team just by adding two Lakers castoffs.
Russell is gonna get paid....can’t see how we’d have space to sign both those guys unless Brooklyn foolishly took Tyler Johnson back in a S&T
No way Brooklyn is letting Russell go. They are seeing him as a star player now. They will match anything.
I agree, Russell won’t be available. I can’t see Brogdon being available either. Our FA pg class looks like Rozier, Wright, Rubio
I think I would pass on Rozier and Wright, but I think Rubio isn't a bad option that could also simultaneously mentor Melton and Okobo. Though if we end up with the #2 pick, I think that Ja Morant can be a really special player and could fill that PG need for us right away.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:16 am
by jonh
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:31 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:08 pm
How about signing Russell (perhaps via S&T) and Randle. I bet we could be a playoff team just by adding two Lakers castoffs.
Russell is gonna get paid....can’t see how we’d have space to sign both those guys unless Brooklyn foolishly took Tyler Johnson back in a S&T
Would you give up Tyler Johnson and an unconditional 1st round pick for Russell?
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:17 am
by jonh
carey wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:06 pm
Lots of teams have money this Summer.
And lots of players are FA this summer--I don't know where Oubre fits on that list.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:03 am
by AmareIsGod
Kelly Oubre Jr. wants to stay with the Phoenix Suns the 'rest of my career'
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 098438002/
Kelly Oubre Jr. isn’t ready to change his current NBA location anytime soon.
“I’m here, No. 3, small forward for the Phoenix Suns,” he said. “Trying to keep it that way for the rest of my career.”
....
“I’m not out here playing for a contract,” Oubre defiantly said. “I only try to play to win.”
Oubre recognizes the Suns have versatile wings in Josh Jackson, TJ Warren and rookie Mikal Bridges.
“It’s a great group of guys to pick from and have that problem here,” he said.
At the same time, Oubre has been a big part of Phoenix’s recent success and would love to play a significant role in helping the Suns (15-51) return to the playoffs for first time since 2010.
“I’m new here, fairly new, but I want to be here, man,” he said. “I want to help this franchise get to the top and I just feel like we can do that.”
The Suns have taken notice of the energy and explosiveness Oubre brings to the team.
The wiry, 6-foot-7 lefty has posted nine 20-point games with Phoenix, including a career-high 28 against the Los Angeles Clippers at Staples Center. He’s had three double-digit rebounding efforts with a career-high 13 to go along with 27 points in Monday’s stunner over Milwaukee.
....
“I give love and I expect the same energy back,” Oubre said. “It’s just a great bond that I’m forming here with fans and my teammates. It’s a blessing to be here.”
Doesn't sound like just a guy looking to get paid. But I could be wrong. I'd take him over TJ.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:28 am
by specialsauce
jonh wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:16 am
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:31 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:08 pm
How about signing Russell (perhaps via S&T) and Randle. I bet we could be a playoff team just by adding two Lakers castoffs.
Russell is gonna get paid....can’t see how we’d have space to sign both those guys unless Brooklyn foolishly took Tyler Johnson back in a S&T
Would you give up Tyler Johnson and an unconditional 1st round pick for Russell?
I would. Don’t think the Nets would be interested though.
Re: Suns News: Week 20 2/25-3/3
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:35 am
by Mori Chu
Split T wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:40 am
I agree, Russell won’t be available. I can’t see Brogdon being available either. Our FA pg class looks like Rozier, Wright,
Rubio
