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Able, Willing, and Actually do something, are three very different propositions. At least now the coaching staff can scheme properly knowing what kind of returns are expected, instead of having to roll the dice on what effort and effect they will get, almost on a quarter-to-quarter basis.
You don’t need to waste energy pushing that Nurkic < Ayton, everyone is aware that in a vacuum, and under ideal circumstances, Ayton is the better player. Rest your soul on that.
Let’s also not forget we got another piece coming off the bench in Grayson so it’s not a one for one.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:23 pmYou don’t need to waste energy pushing that Nurkic < Ayton, everyone is aware that in a vacuum, and under ideal circumstances, Ayton is the better player. Rest your soul on that.
Problem is, “ideal” is something that is not happening with Ayton, except for a few samples here and there. As I said in another post, you can’t successfully go game planning if one key cog is a complete unknown. After the trade, the team knows what they have, and what not (including projections on health availability) regarding the center position. Before the trade, counting on Ayton stopping AD was a gamble, and either you waste resources game planning against it in case he actually does it, or put yourself at total risk in case the kid wakes up on a paper tissue soft mood, plus the total disarray of adjusting on the fly, with the added bonus of alienating the kid if you bench him for his effort levels.
They are cutting the unreliable although superior player, in favor of the lesser but reliably known quantity. What a shame and a waste it is, but the kid brought it into himself.
You clearly can’t accept that this was a total “addition by substraction” trade, where the team tried to salvage the most posible value from a decision that was set to happen (shipping Ayton out)
And it’s ok if you keep believing the kid is the second coming but you will find more echo on a Portland forum praising him, because in this forum, once the game starts counting, he will be an afterthought for most of us.
Who’s we? Only one person here keeping score.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:37 pmWe're doing the thing where we compare Nurkic to Ayton every time one of them has a bad game? Got it.
Don't get it twisted, AD would've eaten Ayton's lunch as well. Maybe he goes 4-11 instead of 1-11. Big deal.
That's a lot of paragraphs about someone I did not mention and was not talking about.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:23 pmYou don’t need to waste energy pushing that Nurkic < Ayton, everyone is aware that in a vacuum, and under ideal circumstances, Ayton is the better player. Rest your soul on that.
Problem is, “ideal” is something that is not happening with Ayton, except for a few samples here and there. As I said in another post, you can’t successfully go game planning if one key cog is a complete unknown. After the trade, the team knows what they have, and what not (including projections on health availability) regarding the center position. Before the trade, counting on Ayton stopping AD was a gamble, and either you waste resources game planning against it in case he actually does it, or put yourself at total risk in case the kid wakes up on a paper tissue soft mood, plus the total disarray of adjusting on the fly, with the added bonus of alienating the kid if you bench him for his effort levels.
They are cutting the unreliable although superior player, in favor of the lesser but reliably known quantity. What a shame and a waste it is, but the kid brought it into himself.
You clearly can’t accept that this was a total “addition by substraction” trade, where the team tried to salvage the most posible value from a decision that was set to happen (shipping Ayton out)
And it’s ok if you keep believing the kid is the second coming but you will find more echo on a Portland forum praising him, because in this forum, once the game starts counting, he will be an afterthought for most of us.
LOL, you didn’t create the “All things Ayton” thread either, but still have your finger prints all over it…. Indirect posting is not going to hide your agenda, but I take your omission to engage, not even in your usual nitpicking of a single line to twist it into a pro Ayton delusion, as a token of someone opening his eyes into the truth: the team is better off without Ayton.JeremyG wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:05 pmThat's a lot of paragraphs about someone I did not mention and was not talking about.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:23 pmYou don’t need to waste energy pushing that Nurkic < Ayton, everyone is aware that in a vacuum, and under ideal circumstances, Ayton is the better player. Rest your soul on that.
Problem is, “ideal” is something that is not happening with Ayton, except for a few samples here and there. As I said in another post, you can’t successfully go game planning if one key cog is a complete unknown. After the trade, the team knows what they have, and what not (including projections on health availability) regarding the center position. Before the trade, counting on Ayton stopping AD was a gamble, and either you waste resources game planning against it in case he actually does it, or put yourself at total risk in case the kid wakes up on a paper tissue soft mood, plus the total disarray of adjusting on the fly, with the added bonus of alienating the kid if you bench him for his effort levels.
They are cutting the unreliable although superior player, in favor of the lesser but reliably known quantity. What a shame and a waste it is, but the kid brought it into himself.
You clearly can’t accept that this was a total “addition by substraction” trade, where the team tried to salvage the most posible value from a decision that was set to happen (shipping Ayton out)
And it’s ok if you keep believing the kid is the second coming but you will find more echo on a Portland forum praising him, because in this forum, once the game starts counting, he will be an afterthought for most of us.
I did create it.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:21 pmLOL, you didn’t create the “All things Ayton” thread either,JeremyG wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:05 pmThat's a lot of paragraphs about someone I did not mention and was not talking about.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:23 pmYou don’t need to waste energy pushing that Nurkic < Ayton, everyone is aware that in a vacuum, and under ideal circumstances, Ayton is the better player. Rest your soul on that.
Problem is, “ideal” is something that is not happening with Ayton, except for a few samples here and there. As I said in another post, you can’t successfully go game planning if one key cog is a complete unknown. After the trade, the team knows what they have, and what not (including projections on health availability) regarding the center position. Before the trade, counting on Ayton stopping AD was a gamble, and either you waste resources game planning against it in case he actually does it, or put yourself at total risk in case the kid wakes up on a paper tissue soft mood, plus the total disarray of adjusting on the fly, with the added bonus of alienating the kid if you bench him for his effort levels.
They are cutting the unreliable although superior player, in favor of the lesser but reliably known quantity. What a shame and a waste it is, but the kid brought it into himself.
You clearly can’t accept that this was a total “addition by substraction” trade, where the team tried to salvage the most posible value from a decision that was set to happen (shipping Ayton out)
And it’s ok if you keep believing the kid is the second coming but you will find more echo on a Portland forum praising him, because in this forum, once the game starts counting, he will be an afterthought for most of us.
Not at all, just not going to let you bait me into a debate, but if you want to think that to help you feel better, go ahead.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:21 pmbut still have your finger prints all over it…. Indirect posting is not going to hide your agenda, but I take your omission to engage, not even in your usual nitpicking of a single line to twist it into a pro Ayton delusion, as a token of someone opening his eyes into the truth: the team is better off without Ayton.
The king of baiting calling it quits, oh Jeremy, you are losing yourself on the grief, but no worries, I felt better the moment the team sent “bruised ribs” packing, your Ayton “opinions” never moved my “feeling better” needle one bit.JeremyG wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:46 pmI did create it.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:21 pmLOL, you didn’t create the “All things Ayton” thread either,JeremyG wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:05 pmThat's a lot of paragraphs about someone I did not mention and was not talking about.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:23 pmYou don’t need to waste energy pushing that Nurkic < Ayton, everyone is aware that in a vacuum, and under ideal circumstances, Ayton is the better player. Rest your soul on that.
Problem is, “ideal” is something that is not happening with Ayton, except for a few samples here and there. As I said in another post, you can’t successfully go game planning if one key cog is a complete unknown. After the trade, the team knows what they have, and what not (including projections on health availability) regarding the center position. Before the trade, counting on Ayton stopping AD was a gamble, and either you waste resources game planning against it in case he actually does it, or put yourself at total risk in case the kid wakes up on a paper tissue soft mood, plus the total disarray of adjusting on the fly, with the added bonus of alienating the kid if you bench him for his effort levels.
They are cutting the unreliable although superior player, in favor of the lesser but reliably known quantity. What a shame and a waste it is, but the kid brought it into himself.
You clearly can’t accept that this was a total “addition by substraction” trade, where the team tried to salvage the most posible value from a decision that was set to happen (shipping Ayton out)
And it’s ok if you keep believing the kid is the second coming but you will find more echo on a Portland forum praising him, because in this forum, once the game starts counting, he will be an afterthought for most of us.
Not at all, just not going to let you bait me into a debate, but if you want to think that to help you feel better, go ahead.Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:21 pmbut still have your finger prints all over it…. Indirect posting is not going to hide your agenda, but I take your omission to engage, not even in your usual nitpicking of a single line to twist it into a pro Ayton delusion, as a token of someone opening his eyes into the truth: the team is better off without Ayton.
