Suns News: October

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Time to get that game day thread up, 'Bone.

Also, someone needs to volunteer to do a live blog in the thread. It's only on FSAZ and a lot of us won't see it.
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carey wrote:Time to get that game day thread up, 'Bone.

Also, someone needs to volunteer to do a live blog in the thread. It's only on FSAZ and a lot of us won't see it.
Wheres the GAME DAY THREAD!!!! DIS-CUSS!

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http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /16888435/

I didn't see a link on the website but apparently the game is going to stream live tonight.
• Tonight's game will air on Fox Sports Arizona and stream live on suns.com.
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da_suns_fan wrote:
carey wrote:Time to get that game day thread up, 'Bone.

Also, someone needs to volunteer to do a live blog in the thread. It's only on FSAZ and a lot of us won't see it.
Wheres the GAME DAY THREAD!!!! DIS-CUSS!
Patience fellas. 8-)
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Here's where the Suns' players have landed so far on ESPN's #NBArank 2014, which ranks 500 NBA players -

?? - Goran Dragic
?? - Eric Bledsoe
67 - Isaiah Thomas
104 - Markieff Morris
144 - Miles Plumley
145 - Marcus Morris
146 - Gerald Green
176 - P.J. Tucker
294 - Alex Len
319 - Anthony Tolliver
335 - Tyler Ennis
366 - T.J. Warren
392 - Archie Goodwin
412 - Shavlik Randolph

I think they probably rank Goodwin and Warren a little lower than they should be, and Ennis a little higher than he deserves. They have yet to rank Dragic and Bledsoe (they're up to 61-70 today).
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I agree with you. If Goodwin plays like last night for the rest of the season vs. how he looked in summer league, he will make a huge jump. I'm hoping most of the players turn out to be ranked way too low.
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Yeah, based on how we finished last year, I would put Archie in that same ball park. But if he can play like he did last night, I see him moving up quite a bit, and very fast.

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Hard to believe how overlooked Goodwin is - he just turned 20 years in August and he's only going to get better.

He might not get a lot of playing time, but then again, if he keeps playing like he did last night when he get his opportunities he might just force them to play him in the rotation.
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I hope so. I love his attitude, and I always forget how young he is. I am hoping the game slows down for him this year. I got the sense he was just moving too fast last year to try and keep up, and it led to poor plays/decisions/rushed shots.

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The Bobster wrote:Here's where the Suns' players have landed so far on ESPN's #NBArank 2014, which ranks 500 NBA players -

?? - Goran Dragic
?? - Eric Bledsoe
67 - Isaiah Thomas
104 - Markieff Morris
144 - Miles Plumley
145 - Marcus Morris
146 - Gerald Green
176 - P.J. Tucker
294 - Alex Len
319 - Anthony Tolliver
335 - Tyler Ennis
366 - T.J. Warren
392 - Archie Goodwin
412 - Shavlik Randolph

I think they probably rank Goodwin and Warren a little lower than they should be, and Ennis a little higher than he deserves. They have yet to rank Dragic and Bledsoe (they're up to 61-70 today).

Agreed on Goodwin, Warren and Ennis. Gerald should probably be a bit higher (100-120 range), Tucker should probably be a little higher (top 150). Plumlee, Len, Tolliver, Randolph, and IT are rated pretty accurately. Dragic will for sure be rated too low (he'll show up in the 30's despite being an All-NBA-level talent last season).

But it's clear that the national media still can't tell the difference between Markieff and Marcus. Kieff at 104, 40 spots below Taj Gibson, with whom he shares similar stats and a similar impact on their team, is a joke. And Marcus has no business being in the same vicinity as Gerald Green, let alone 30 spots higher than PJ Tucker.

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If Indiana called and offered Paul George for the Dragic Brothers, would you guys do it?

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The Bobster wrote:Hard to believe how overlooked Goodwin is
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Shabazz wrote:If Indiana called and offered Paul George for the Dragic Brothers, would you guys do it?
Objectively speaking, Paul George is the superior talent. And I don't have any concerns about his return from injury. But I would hesitate to move Dragic in a deal for an All-Star small forward not named Kevin Durant or LeBron James because I feel we may already have a 2-way, 20 ppg SF already on the roster. Moreover, I would hate to move Dragic in a deal that does give us any significant upgrades at the 4 and/or 5.

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INFORMER wrote:because I feel we may already have a 2-way, 20 ppg SF already on the roster.
I assume you're referring to Green?

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Probably Warren.

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Charlie Smithy! wrote:Probably Warren.
I was thinking Warren too. I wouldn't call Green "2-way".
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INFORMER wrote:
Shabazz wrote:If Indiana called and offered Paul George for the Dragic Brothers, would you guys do it?
Objectively speaking, Paul George is the superior talent. And I don't have any concerns about his return from injury. But I would hesitate to move Dragic in a deal for an All-Star small forward not named Kevin Durant or LeBron James because I feel we may already have a 2-way, 20 ppg SF already on the roster. Moreover, I would hate to move Dragic in a deal that does give us any significant upgrades at the 4 and/or 5.
Keep in mind Dragic is an UFA this summer and George is locked in until 2019. I also think George has some ability to play the two.

I think non-Suns fans would do the trade in a second, but over here I'm expecting a lot of NOs.

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I honestly feel that Goran's free agency is a non-issue. He's not going to have outrageous demands, he's not going to give the Suns the cold shoulder or hashtag some foolishness like "wewriteouronchapter". The only way it becomes an issue is if the Suns make it one.

'Bazz, if your hypothetical deal went down, I wouldn't complain. It certainly wouldn't be worse thing this regime has done. Paul George is incredible player, and I think he would benefit playing with a legitimate point guard and scorer like Bledsoe. But if it were left up to me, I'd pass. I think you could get less "name" talent in a Dragic but improve the team more.

(Btw: Indiana would ask for more than that.)

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I don't think Indiana would offer it. I just thought it was an interesting hypothetical.

And I agree that our biggest need is in the front-court. That much is obvious.

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INFORMER wrote:I honestly feel that Goran's free agency is a non-issue. He's not going to have outrageous demands, he's not going to give the Suns the cold shoulder or hashtag some foolishness like "wewriteouronchapter". The only way it becomes an issue is if the Suns make it one.
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