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We let amare walk in it was the right move. Quinton richardson fell apart when he went to Ny. Marbury nearly went mental when he went to Ny so beware dragic, the phx to ny transition hasnt turned out good recently.

Ring_Wanted wrote:But you know what, I am willing to gamble.

First I trade IT3+, regardless. Then I let Dragic know that we will pay him more than anyone if things work out the rest of the season, it is, if the team plays better ball and he gets more comfortable with just Bledsoe. If that doesn't happen, he is free to sign with the Lakers, Knicks, etc.

Depends on the offers on the table. If they are bad -- well, the Suns' bird rights on a sign and trade are worth something next summer.

Sunsfan4life wrote:We let amare walk in it was the right move.

And yet we couldn't let Bledsoe walk.

Gladiator wrote:https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/567909060307218432

Very risky. Their only chance would be to trade IT and move Bledsoe to off guard and let Dragic be lead guard from this point forward. Then they'd have to blow sunshine up his ass the rest of the season. I don't see them pulling this off. Just an off-season ago Dragic was saying it was a no-brainer for him to re-sign. Now this. This is the very definition of the phrase "screwing the pooch."

carey wrote:Can we at least see what he gets for the guy before we start witht he McDumbass stuff?

No. We shouldn't be in this position.

I believe better team play and the kind of rotation with Bledsoe from last year could be enough to change his mind (along with the promise of a ton of money, of course).

Anyway, I see little downside to moving IT3 and other pieces (PJ and the twins, specifically). It would make a double statement. First, we want Dragic. Second, we are not happy with the way things have gone so far this season on and off the court, especially after people got paid.

Superbone wrote: move Bledsoe to off guard

Goran is a better 2 guard than Bledsoe is. Moving Bledsoe off the ball is a non-starter.

INFORMER wrote:

Superbone wrote: move Bledsoe to off guard

Goran is a better 2 guard than Bledsoe is. Moving Bledsoe off the ball is a non-starter.

Then don't start him.

Superbone wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

Superbone wrote: move Bledsoe to off guard

Goran is a better 2 guard than Bledsoe is. Moving Bledsoe off the ball is a non-starter.

Then don't start him.

Now you're just not being realistic. Although I hardly have room to talk. I pine for Bledsoe and the Morris Twins to be shown the door, but that likely will never happen as long as Ryan and Blabby are calling the shots.

INFORMER wrote:

Superbone wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

Superbone wrote: move Bledsoe to off guard

Goran is a better 2 guard than Bledsoe is. Moving Bledsoe off the ball is a non-starter.

Then don't start him.

Now you're just not being realistic. Although I hardly have room to talk. I pine for Bledsoe and the Morris Twins to be shown the door, but that likely will never happen as long as Ryan and Blabby are calling the shots.

Yeah, it was more of an angry joke and play on "non-starter".

A lot of good stuff from tonight's D League game:

Besides the debut of Alec Brown, Reggie Bullock shined with 26 points on 14 shots. I say give him a shot at starting at the 2.

Franchise cornerstone Archie Goodwin shot 4-18.

Superbone wrote: Yeah, it was more of an angry joke and play on "non-starter".

Lol, sorry, I completely missed that.

INFORMER wrote:A lot of good stuff from tonight's D League game:

Besides the debut of Alec Brown, Reggie Bullock shined with 26 points on 14 shots. I say give him a shot at starting at the 2.

Franchise cornerstone Archie Goodwin shot 4-18.

And yet people continue to minimize Goodwin's failure to improve his shot. I can't imagine he's putting up 1000s of shots a day and working on his form with his lack of improvement he's shown. A year and a half later, we should have seen noticeable improvement.

Ring_Wanted wrote:I believe better team play and the kind of rotation with Bledsoe from last year could be enough to change his mind (along with the promise of a ton of money, of course).

Too late for that.

Anyway, I see little downside to moving IT3 and other pieces (PJ and the twins, specifically). It would make a double statement. First, we want Dragic. Second, we are not happy with the way things have gone so far this season on and off the court, especially after people got paid.

Yes, please.

Superbone wrote: And yet people continue to minimize Goodwin's failure to improve his shot.

It's just one game, 'bone. In 10 D-League games, he's shooting a much more impressive 43% from the field and a blistering 27% from 3.

INFORMER wrote:

Superbone wrote: And yet people continue to minimize Goodwin's failure to improve his shot.

It's just one game, 'bone. In 10 D-League games, he's shooting a much more impressive 43% from the field and a blistering 27% from 3.

Uh... yeah.

Superbone wrote:

INFORMER wrote:A lot of good stuff from tonight's D League game:

Besides the debut of Alec Brown, Reggie Bullock shined with 26 points on 14 shots. I say give him a shot at starting at the 2.

Franchise cornerstone Archie Goodwin shot 4-18.

And yet people continue to minimize Goodwin's failure to improve his shot. I can't imagine he's putting up 1000s of shots a day and working on his form with his lack of improvement he's shown. A year and a half later, we should have seen noticeable improvement.

Do you remember how awful one Goran Dragic looked as a 20 year old? Probably not, because he was two years from even playing in the NBA, when as a rookie he couldn't dribble or shoot and was being called the worst player in the league.

Give Archie time.

Why do people think it would be 'risky' to trade IT and still lose Dragic? Who cares. We have Ennis to use as backup PG who I'd rather have getting minutes over IT anyway. And we'd be in the market for a real 2 guard, which IT is not.

Shabazz wrote:
Do you remember how awful one Goran Dragic looked as a 20 year old? Probably not, because he was two years from even playing in the NBA, when as a rookie he couldn't dribble or shoot and was being called the worst player in the league.

Give Archie time.

It's not just about age. It's about experience and talent. A 20 year old playing in the Slovenian league shouldn't be at the same level as a 20 year old that has been given NBA coaching and training. Birth certificates aren't as important as experience and talent.

specialsauce wrote:Why do people think it would be 'risky' to trade IT and still lose Dragic? Who cares. We have Ennis to use as backup PG who I'd rather have getting minutes over IT anyway. And we'd be in the market for a real 2 guard, which IT is not.

I agree with you that I'd rather have Ennis on the court than IT. At least the ball would move. This team absolutely needs to get away from all the one-on-one play.