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Will James Jones finally get John Collins?

MightyMoog wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:25 pm

Monty’s mistake was playing Shamet the first game of the Denver series when Payne was available. He waited until game 3 to give Payne some run.

I know you all like to shit on Payne, but he’s been the barometer of this team. Our uptick started with his signing and all our successes have been when he’s been at his best.

I'd move off of him this summer in a heartbeat.

Uh ohhhhhhh

It’s happening


Please not Collins, if anything get me Capela and Bogdanovic though I’d much prefer a package Boston could put together around Robert Williams and Brogdon

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:37 pm

Uh ohhhhhhh

It’s happening


Please not Collins, if anything get me Capela and Bogdanovic though I’d much prefer a package Boston could put together around Robert Williams and Brogdon

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Atlanta has an abundance of wings they could send us in addition to Capela: Hunter, Bey, Jalen J, AJ Griffin, Bogey.. even Garrison Matthews isn't terrible.

If we're trading with Boston, I'd push for Time Lord instead of Horford. Brogdon would be a nice addition, but all of their pieces come with significant injury risk and we're already creaky. Smart and Williams is probably the best combo we could hope for there. Plugs two holes very nicely (but leaves us very small).

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:30 pm

Will James Jones finally get John Collins?

Two Ayton trades I’d consider. I like the Hawks with all their depth. I’d take one of their larger contracts with one of their up and coming talents. No way am I taking Collins.
I like Onyeka and Bogdanovic.
Or Griffin and Capela.
Who do you like from Boston?

I think it was on Zach Lowe's podcast that I heard the Suns can take back up to 120% of Ayton's salary if he's traded by July 1st(?), but after that it drops to 110% until the next trade deadline or something... Anyway, if Ishbones is as unconcerned with salary as it appears, they'd be more likely to take on seemingly oversized salaries like Hunter or Collins than middle around with less proven players who're cheaper.

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:30 pm

Will James Jones finally get John Collins?

Jones hates Collins.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:30 pm

Will James Jones finally get John Collins?

Jones hates Collins.

Does he? We apparently almost traded for him at the deadline last year before the KD deal got done. We were rumored to be interested in using Paul’s contract to get him before Beal trade. Just seems like we keep being linked to him. I want nothing to do with Collins so I hope you’re right.

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:36 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:30 pm

Will James Jones finally get John Collins?

Jones hates Collins.

Does he? We apparently almost traded for him at the deadline last year before the KD deal got done. We were rumored to be interested in using Paul’s contract to get him before Beal trade. Just seems like we keep being linked to him. I want nothing to do with Collins so I hope you’re right.

Would you take Collins if we got Okongwu too?

Would it be possible to take less money back in an Ayton deal, say John Collins, and use the extra space to sign Draymond to a 1+1?

I don't get the Collins rumors. I think Capela and a swing makes more sense. I don't think the Cs would give up Williams but I guess there's a chance if they think DA can give them some offense in the paint they think they're lacking.

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ShelC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:16 am

I don't get the Collins rumors. I think Capela and a swing makes more sense. I don't think the Cs would give up Williams but I guess there's a chance if they think DA can give them some offense in the paint they think they're lacking.

I can't understand how anyone would want to trade Ayton for Robert Williams. The dude has averaged 41.8 games played over his 5-year career.

Booo fuckitty hoo

If we're operating on Flex has a beat on this than he has it the two teams to watch for Ayton are the hawks and Celtics. I'm thinking right now the Celtics are offering Brogdan and Horford. Hawks Capella plus filler.

Idk how others feel but I think Capella could be a good fit with this bunch. I'd want another piece to buy seems to be interested teams out there

I love the Capela fit for us.
He won't need to score as much, and he can dunk and catch the ball on pick and rolls, and can defend. If we get a 3d wing along with him its a Win in my book.