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JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:36 am

ShelC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:16 am

I don't get the Collins rumors. I think Capela and a swing makes more sense. I don't think the Cs would give up Williams but I guess there's a chance if they think DA can give them some offense in the paint they think they're lacking.

I can't understand how anyone would want to trade Ayton for Robert Williams. The dude has averaged 41.8 games played over his 5-year career.

Well I think the rumor had Brogdon coming too

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:36 am

Too bad basketball isn't just about stats.

Imagine if he tried.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:40 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:36 am

ShelC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:16 am

I don't get the Collins rumors. I think Capela and a swing makes more sense. I don't think the Cs would give up Williams but I guess there's a chance if they think DA can give them some offense in the paint they think they're lacking.

I can't understand how anyone would want to trade Ayton for Robert Williams. The dude has averaged 41.8 games played over his 5-year career.

Well I think the rumor had Brogdon coming too

He’s injury prone too lol. But the point is Vogel needs a center, and Williams is not very reliable.

All I am happy about is that the Suns won't trade Ayton unless they got a good offer. None of these pu pu platters that folks seem to mention here, please.

I agree…would need to have a backup plan. Maybe that’s Jock

Well I’ve heard 3 rumors and they all seem too good to be true:

Boston: Robert Williams, Malcolm Brogdon, and Payton Pritchard

Orlando: Wendell Carter Jr, Jonathan Isaac, and Bol Bol

Dallas: THJ, Josh Green, and #10

I’d do every single one of those without hesitation.

This is where they come from:

“Orlando’s interest in Ayton is real, as a source told PHNX Sports they’ve offered a package of Carter, Jonathan Isaac and Bol Bol for his services. Such a deal would require the Suns to increase the guarantees, since only $7.6 million of Isaac’s $17.4 million salary is guaranteed, and Bol’s $2.2 million salary is fully non-guaranteed.”

“According to one source, the Dallas Mavericks have had a standing offer on the table for DA since the end of the season: Tim Hardaway Jr., Josh Green and the No. 10 overall pick in this year’s draft.”

Very interested in WCJ even with some injury history. But he's a very good player and his deal declines over the years. The rest are meh. Dallas is intriguing because of Green and the pick.

Gambo already shot down the Dallas rumor. He says they aren’t willing to include the #10 pick.

Ya I don’t believe any of them…WCJ is better than Ayton. I trust Gambo, he’s been very accurate since Ishbia took over. The Boston one comes from some flex wannabe, so I don’t believe that either.

We’ll see what happens.

0% interested in Isaac. Gimme one of the guards instead.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:34 am

WCJ is better than Ayton.

By what standard?

TOO wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:36 am

0% interested in Isaac. Gimme one of the guards instead.

Fair, but all I had to hear was WCJ and I was sold

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:36 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:34 am

WCJ is better than Ayton.

By what standard?

Stats last year are honestly very similar. Ayton took a few more shots and scored a little more. He had a slightly higher rebound rate. Blocks and steals about the same. WCJ has a higher assist rate.

I like that WCJ can shoot 3’s and has a little more juice as a playmaker. He also costs 1/3rd the price. So give me that and I’ll take the extra assets on top of that.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:45 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:36 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:34 am

WCJ is better than Ayton.

By what standard?

Stats last year are honestly very similar. Ayton took a few more shots and scored a little more. He had a slightly higher rebound rate. Blocks and steals about the same. WCJ has a higher assist rate.

I like that WCJ can shoot 3’s and has a little more juice as a playmaker. He also costs 1/3rd the price. So give me that and I’ll take the extra assets on top of that.

Ayton has much more talent and potential than WCJ. Monty wouldn’t let him shoot 3’s. And I wouldn’t call Isaac an “asset.”

What about Bol Bol?

Point Bol. We win the title.

I still have a thing for Isaac even though he’s made out of paper and is a full blown [REDACTED FOR POLITICS].

His game would be such a good fit with the crew we’re assembling.

Ya, Isaac the player is great(in theory). The big problem is all you tend to get is Isaac the person. He plays less than Zion