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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:40 am
by ShelC
I'd take Doncic at 1, make the trade with Memphis sending them Chriss, Warren, 16 and 31 for Parsons and the 4th and take Bamba 4.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:00 am
by Furlanfufi
carey wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:18 pm
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I hope someone drafts this guy. Suns worked him out today & he tied Shaq Harrison's record.
It would be great being the only team in the NBA to have 2 Yuta's in history.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:23 am
by INFORMER
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:22 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:35 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:25 pm
DeAaron Fox isn't a point guard and honestly isn't that talented.
There's a hot take. He's the best young PG in the league, IMO.
Hot takes indeed..
Just my opinion.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:49 am
by O_Gardino
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:49 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:10 am
It depends on who the Knicks think they can get in free agency. If they get a star, it's totally worth the player and pick. Would you trade Frank + #9 for Cousins? I'm not saying it is going to for sure happen, but I do think it is possible. The Knicks are never shy about dumping long term assets to sign a big name free agent.
The problem is timing. By draft night they can't know who they'd be getting, or even if they'd be getting anyone. Moving the #9 and a nice prospect for such uncertainity would be very Dolan-esque, but with Porzingis injuried this season would be wasted anyway. Better wait, tank hard, get a high pick in '19 and Porzingis back, let Frank develop and build from there.
Yeah, it's a stretch.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:51 am
by O_Gardino
Cap wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:22 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:15 pm
Latest scuttlebutt has Memphis seeing what kind of package they could get for Parsons s*** contract and the #4 pick.

If Doncic is available, I'd offer 16, 31 and our unprotected first next season for him. Warren too if need be.
Forget it. Doncic is going #2 to Sacramento, and they’re not trading the pick.

The only way we can get Doncic is to forgo Ayton. It’s fun to imagine getting them both, but it’s pure fantasy.
It's tempting to agree, but Sac is really unpredictable and a scorer like Bagley could be great next to their stable of centers.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:21 am
by Split T
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:40 am
I'd take Doncic at 1, make the trade with Memphis sending them Chriss, Warren, 16 and 31 for Parsons and the 4th and take Bamba 4.
If we're trading for 4, this is the correct answer. You take Doncic at 1 and grab the defensive big at 4. I prefer JJJ, but I'd take Bamba if JJJ was gone. Ayton + Doncic gives us too many mouths to feed on offense. Doncic, Booker, Jackson, Ayton without much defense.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:24 am
by Split T
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:35 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:25 pm
DeAaron Fox isn't a point guard and honestly isn't that talented.
There's a hot take. He's the best young PG in the league, IMO.
I liked Fox more coming out of college, but I'm not sure he's a PG either. He's quick, athletic, and can handle the ball, but he's a little lacking in the passing and shooting department. I thought he could turn into Mike Conley but now he looks like he could maybe be Dennis Schroeder?

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:47 am
by In2ition
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:21 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:40 am
I'd take Doncic at 1, make the trade with Memphis sending them Chriss, Warren, 16 and 31 for Parsons and the 4th and take Bamba 4.
If we're trading for 4, this is the correct answer. You take Doncic at 1 and grab the defensive big at 4. I prefer JJJ, but I'd take Bamba if JJJ was gone. Ayton + Doncic gives us too many mouths to feed on offense. Doncic, Booker, Jackson, Ayton without much defense.
I would think that Doncic would be the primary facilitator in that group.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:51 am
by ShelC
Doncic, Booker and Jackson all facilitate on the perimeter with Doncic the primary ball handler and Jackson secondary. Jackson and Bamba are the defensive anchors on the perimeter and interior, respectively. Bender would need to be the stretch 4 who can be a secondary shotblocker. He'd be the xfactor or need to be replaced.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:58 am
by Split T
In2ition wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:47 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:21 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:40 am
I'd take Doncic at 1, make the trade with Memphis sending them Chriss, Warren, 16 and 31 for Parsons and the 4th and take Bamba 4.
If we're trading for 4, this is the correct answer. You take Doncic at 1 and grab the defensive big at 4. I prefer JJJ, but I'd take Bamba if JJJ was gone. Ayton + Doncic gives us too many mouths to feed on offense. Doncic, Booker, Jackson, Ayton without much defense.
I would think that Doncic would be the primary facilitator in that group.
He would be. And while Booker can play off the ball right now, Jackson has shown that he needs the ball to score. What does he do when Doncic has the ball? Stand in the corner? No one would pay attention to him.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:11 am
by In2ition
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:58 am
In2ition wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:47 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:21 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:40 am
I'd take Doncic at 1, make the trade with Memphis sending them Chriss, Warren, 16 and 31 for Parsons and the 4th and take Bamba 4.
If we're trading for 4, this is the correct answer. You take Doncic at 1 and grab the defensive big at 4. I prefer JJJ, but I'd take Bamba if JJJ was gone. Ayton + Doncic gives us too many mouths to feed on offense. Doncic, Booker, Jackson, Ayton without much defense.
I would think that Doncic would be the primary facilitator in that group.
He would be. And while Booker can play off the ball right now, Jackson has shown that he needs the ball to score. What does he do when Doncic has the ball? Stand in the corner? No one would pay attention to him.
I'm pretty sure that every player needs the ball to score. :D

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:32 am
by Mori Chu
carey wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:18 pm
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I hope someone drafts this guy. Suns worked him out today & he tied Shaq Harrison's record.
We already had Yuta Tabuse several years ago.

How have there been two "Yutas" and neither of them ended up on Utah? I mean come on.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:41 am
by TOO
INFORMER wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:23 am
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:22 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:35 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:25 pm
DeAaron Fox isn't a point guard and honestly isn't that talented.
There's a hot take. He's the best young PG in the league, IMO.
Hot takes indeed..
Just my opinion.
Was more for Flagrant :)

I like Fox, but not nearly enough to say he's the best young PG in the league.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:43 am
by TOO
In2ition wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:11 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:58 am
In2ition wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:47 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:21 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:40 am
I'd take Doncic at 1, make the trade with Memphis sending them Chriss, Warren, 16 and 31 for Parsons and the 4th and take Bamba 4.
If we're trading for 4, this is the correct answer. You take Doncic at 1 and grab the defensive big at 4. I prefer JJJ, but I'd take Bamba if JJJ was gone. Ayton + Doncic gives us too many mouths to feed on offense. Doncic, Booker, Jackson, Ayton without much defense.
I would think that Doncic would be the primary facilitator in that group.
He would be. And while Booker can play off the ball right now, Jackson has shown that he needs the ball to score. What does he do when Doncic has the ball? Stand in the corner? No one would pay attention to him.
I'm pretty sure that every player needs the ball to score. :D
I bet Rubio doesn't...

(yeah i know, that's why Rubio's don't come here)

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:03 pm
by Split T
Been watching some Lonnie Walker and while I haven't been a huge fan, I think I'm changing my tune. He's a great athlete, will be able to defend both backcourt positions and can really shoot. He's got some poor shot selection and he's much better in catch and shoot situations right now, but he's got a nice handle. I think he'll learn to shoot off the dribble in time. He's not a PG though, so he becomes more valuable if Doncic is the pick at 1. I think Philly takes a long look at him, he'd be great with Simmons.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:30 pm
by ShelC
I think Jackson can be a good corner 3pt shooter (better than Warren) and is a good off the bounce rhythm midrange shooter.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:03 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:21 am
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:40 am
I'd take Doncic at 1, make the trade with Memphis sending them Chriss, Warren, 16 and 31 for Parsons and the 4th and take Bamba 4.
If we're trading for 4, this is the correct answer. You take Doncic at 1 and grab the defensive big at 4. I prefer JJJ, but I'd take Bamba if JJJ was gone. Ayton + Doncic gives us too many mouths to feed on offense. Doncic, Booker, Jackson, Ayton without much defense.
I hear you, but we are the worst team in the league offensively. There is plenty to be taken by competent players. And Jackson can't be considered a primary ballhandler at the moment (I believe it will come in time). Anyway, with those four you just need a stretch PF and 3D role players.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:06 pm
by Ring_Wanted
ShelC wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:30 pm
I think Jackson can be a good corner 3pt shooter (better than Warren) and is a good off the bounce rhythm midrange shooter.
This is true. He takes shots off balance (that somehow vaguely remind me of LeBron) but he can make them. Floater game also interesting. And doesn't lack creativity in layups. Just needs to pick up his spots better and let his body grow.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:10 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:03 pm
Been watching some Lonnie Walker and while I haven't been a huge fan, I think I'm changing my tune. He's a great athlete, will be able to defend both backcourt positions and can really shoot. He's got some poor shot selection and he's much better in catch and shoot situations right now, but he's got a nice handle. I think he'll learn to shoot off the dribble in time. He's not a PG though, so he becomes more valuable if Doncic is the pick at 1. I think Philly takes a long look at him, he'd be great with Simmons.
RealManager mock draft by users had PHX taking him at #16. My fear is that he ends up being Shannon Brown.

Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:20 am
by Superbone
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:43 am
In2ition wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:11 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:58 am
In2ition wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:47 am
Split T wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:21 am


If we're trading for 4, this is the correct answer. You take Doncic at 1 and grab the defensive big at 4. I prefer JJJ, but I'd take Bamba if JJJ was gone. Ayton + Doncic gives us too many mouths to feed on offense. Doncic, Booker, Jackson, Ayton without much defense.
I would think that Doncic would be the primary facilitator in that group.
He would be. And while Booker can play off the ball right now, Jackson has shown that he needs the ball to score. What does he do when Doncic has the ball? Stand in the corner? No one would pay attention to him.
I'm pretty sure that every player needs the ball to score. :D
I bet Rubio doesn't...

(yeah i know, that's why Rubio's don't come here)
Are you talking about on or off the court?