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Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:06 pm
by sunshoopjunky
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
yup and yup.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:31 pm
by Split T
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
Or he might pass on them, draft Jackson and keep Bledsoe.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:09 pm
by UglyTruth
Split T wrote:Who says no:

Phoenix out: Bledsoe and Tucker
Phoenix in: Rondo, Valentine, Murray, Kings Top 10 protected 2017 1st

Denver in: Bledsoe
Denver out: Gallinari, Murray

Chicago in: Gallinari, Tucker
Chicago out: Rondo, Valentine, Kings top 10 protected 2017 1st


I'm sure Denver would rather move Mudiay, but I have no interest in him.
Denver would say no.

They see Murray like we did Booker in Booker's rookie season.

That kid's gonna be good once they can get him consistent playing time.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:01 pm
by Mori Chu
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
This is probably why the basketball gods will give us the #3 pick.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:26 pm
by Cap
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
This is probably why the basketball gods will give us the #3 pick.
I won't complain, since there are three prospects we really like (the aforementioned along with Jackson). I'm expecting the basketball gods to give us #4.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:51 pm
by In2ition
Cap wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
This is probably why the basketball gods will give us the #3 pick.
I won't complain, since there are three prospects we really like (the aforementioned along with Jackson). I'm expecting the basketball gods to give us #4.
What the hell did Phoenix ever do to upset the basketball gods so grievously?

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:11 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote:
Cap wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
This is probably why the basketball gods will give us the #3 pick.
I won't complain, since there are three prospects we really like (the aforementioned along with Jackson). I'm expecting the basketball gods to give us #4.
What the hell did Phoenix ever do to upset the basketball gods so grievously?
OGW

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:58 pm
by INFORMER
“I’m not obviously comparing Eric to Steve — that would be unfair to him when you’re talking about a two-time MVP and Hall of Famer — but he has improved a lot and if you look at guys who are in their 30s, around 30, like Chris Paul, like Mike Conley, those guys kind of keep getting better every year, and Eric looks like he’s on that path.

“We never say never, we never put anybody totally off limits, but I think it’s very unlikely we trade Eric and more likely we try to add guys in that age range, from 19 to 27, to play with Eric and Devin Booker.”
So freaking delusional. Ryan kills me.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:20 pm
by Superbone
INFORMER wrote:
“I’m not obviously comparing Eric to Steve — that would be unfair to him when you’re talking about a two-time MVP and Hall of Famer — but he has improved a lot and if you look at guys who are in their 30s, around 30, like Chris Paul, like Mike Conley, those guys kind of keep getting better every year, and Eric looks like he’s on that path.

“We never say never, we never put anybody totally off limits, but I think it’s very unlikely we trade Eric and more likely we try to add guys in that age range, from 19 to 27, to play with Eric and Devin Booker.”
So freaking delusional. Ryan kills me.
Yeah, when I heard that, I was really surprised. Nash was an anomally. What makes him think that Bledsoe is going to be like that. My guess is he just hit his peak and he might plateau there for a while but then it's all downhill from there.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:25 pm
by UglyTruth
INFORMER wrote:
“I’m not obviously comparing Eric to Steve — that would be unfair to him when you’re talking about a two-time MVP and Hall of Famer — but he has improved a lot and if you look at guys who are in their 30s, around 30, like Chris Paul, like Mike Conley, those guys kind of keep getting better every year, and Eric looks like he’s on that path.

“We never say never, we never put anybody totally off limits, but I think it’s very unlikely we trade Eric and more likely we try to add guys in that age range, from 19 to 27, to play with Eric and Devin Booker.”
So freaking delusional. Ryan kills me.
I hope Ryan's saving his money cause he's never ever getting a job in any team's front office after he gets fired here.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:29 pm
by UglyTruth
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
I can see Houston ripping McD off in a potential Bledsoe trade similar to IT.

Bledsoe/Harden would actually make an excellent pairing

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Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:53 pm
by TOO
UglyTruth wrote:
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
I can see Houston ripping McD off in a potential Bledsoe trade similar to IT.

Bledsoe/Harden would actually make an excellent pairing

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Sure man.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:03 pm
by Charlie Smithy!
INFORMER wrote:
“I’m not obviously comparing Eric to Steve — that would be unfair to him when you’re talking about a two-time MVP and Hall of Famer — but he has improved a lot and if you look at guys who are in their 30s, around 30, like Chris Paul, like Mike Conley, those guys kind of keep getting better every year, and Eric looks like he’s on that path.

“We never say never, we never put anybody totally off limits, but I think it’s very unlikely we trade Eric and more likely we try to add guys in that age range, from 19 to 27, to play with Eric and Devin Booker.”
So freaking delusional. Ryan kills me.
My first thoughts as well; his comment made me sick to my stomach (metaphorically, though trending towards the literal).

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:02 pm
by INFORMER
UglyTruth wrote:
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
I can see Houston ripping McD off in a potential Bledsoe trade similar to IT.
No way. Ryan would probably demand 8 first round picks and a superstar for Bledsoe. They're joined at the hip. He is Ryan's sun, moon, and stars.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:57 pm
by TOO
INFORMER wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
I can see Houston ripping McD off in a potential Bledsoe trade similar to IT.
No way. Ryan would probably demand 8 first round picks and a superstar for Bledsoe. They're joined at the hip. He is Ryan's sun, moon, and stars.
INF gets it. Bledsoe will forever be his golden goose.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:20 pm
by Superbone
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
I can see Houston ripping McD off in a potential Bledsoe trade similar to IT.
No way. Ryan would probably demand 8 first round picks and a superstar for Bledsoe. They're joined at the hip. He is Ryan's sun, moon, and stars.
INF gets it. Bledsoe will forever be his golden goose.
That's on McDonough that he put all his fortunes on Bledsoe. As Bledsoe goes, so goes McDonough. How many more years are we going to accept being out of the playoffs?

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:07 pm
by Cap
Superbone wrote:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
I can see Houston ripping McD off in a potential Bledsoe trade similar to IT.
No way. Ryan would probably demand 8 first round picks and a superstar for Bledsoe. They're joined at the hip. He is Ryan's sun, moon, and stars.
INF gets it. Bledsoe will forever be his golden goose.
That's on McDonough that he put all his fortunes on Bledsoe. As Bledsoe goes, so goes McDonough. How many more years are we going to accept being out of the playoffs?
I hope as many as we have to, if the alternative is making short-sighted moves to pursue a lower seed.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:07 pm
by UglyTruth
Superbone wrote:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
INFORMER wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
I can see Houston ripping McD off in a potential Bledsoe trade similar to IT.
No way. Ryan would probably demand 8 first round picks and a superstar for Bledsoe. They're joined at the hip. He is Ryan's sun, moon, and stars.
INF gets it. Bledsoe will forever be his golden goose.
That's on McDonough that he put all his fortunes on Bledsoe. As Bledsoe goes, so goes McDonough. How many more years are we going to accept being out of the playoffs?
Don't the Suns have like the 3rd longest playoff drought in the entire NBA?

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:03 am
by Indy
Cap wrote:If we end up with Fultz or Ball, I imagine we'll trade Bledsoe then, especially if we can't move Knight, which we probably can't.
First, I am not sure when Ryan's contract is up. Is it before or after the draft? Also, I can see Ryan keeping Bledsoe even if we draft one of those PGs.

Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/6-2/12

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:21 am
by Indy
Superbone wrote:
Indy wrote:
Superbone wrote:
Indy wrote:
Superbone wrote: I'd expect that's coming from above. Watson isn't the one that has to pay him.
But his philosophy of family he preaches should trump his boss telling him to undercut a guy for financial gain, right?
You're seriously asking me if he should go against his bosses wishes? You've worked for a company before where you wanted to keep your job, right?
If a boss asks me to do something to help him but it undercuts my team, I tell him/her no. I haven't had many bad bosses in my life, but I have had this happen a couple times, and both times I said no. Your philosophy in life is more important than what your boss wants (especially if it isn't good for your team).
That's good for you but all situations are not the same. I'm sure you can find another similar position if you need to. Head NBA coaching positions are much rarer and you may not get a second chance.
I don't have a guaranteed multi-year, million dollar contract. And I didn't make millions on guaranteed contracts the last 13 years. He has much more security in his life than I have in mine. You can't preach one way, behave another, and still expect credibility and respect.

And to be fair, I am not saying Watson has done this. I am just saying that if he has been asked to play Len less to make him easier to re-sign or affect his negotiating power, he is a hypocrite.