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Split T wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881940483429326852 Maybe he can find a playoff team that can use him for 10 minutes a game

Yay, the Elijah Millsap era begins!




Wut?

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Split T wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881940483429326852 Maybe he can find a playoff team that can use him for 10 minutes a game

Yay, the Elijah Millsap era begins!

Wut?

So do we have 14 on our roster right now?

I'm a big Barbosa fan, but I think we could all see it coming.

Enjoy your lovely parting gift ($500,000)!

Making room to bring on a contract? I like Barbs, and think we need old dudes on the bench. But if he can go somewhere and actually play, good for him.

O_Gardino wrote:Making room to bring on a contract? I like Barbs, and think we need old dudes on the bench. But if he can go somewhere and actually play, good for him.

Maybe. The Suns let everyone know that they are willing to take on bad contracts with young assets and/or draft picks attached. We'll see how they play this. Hopefully, something good comes along that fits #TheTimeline. BTW, I just bought a t-shirt with this tagline that I thought was clever. https://www.teepublic.com/user/CraigAhamil

jonh wrote: So do we have 14 on our roster right now?

Under contract
Bledsoe
Knight
Ulis
Booker
Warren
Chriss
Bender
Chandler
DJJ
Dudley
E. Millsap (signed multi-year deal last season but having trouble confirming the guarantees on it.)
M. James (2-way contract occupying roster spot #16)

RFA
Len
Williams

Rookies not yet signed
Jackson
Reed
Peters

In2ition wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:Making room to bring on a contract? I like Barbs, and think we need old dudes on the bench. But if he can go somewhere and actually play, good for him.

Maybe. The Suns let everyone know that they are willing to take on bad contracts with young assets and/or draft picks attached. We'll see how they play this. Hopefully, something good comes along that fits #TheTimeline. BTW, I just bought a t-shirt with this tagline that I thought was clever. https://www.teepublic.com/user/CraigAhamil

That is VERY cool. You might have just sold another. It's great how you can make out all the players from their outlines. The only one I had to figure out from the process of elimination was Bender.

O_Gardino wrote:Making room to bring on a contract? I like Barbs, and think we need old dudes on the bench. But if he can go somewhere and actually play, good for him.

I believe his contract was fully-guaranteed tomorrow, so he's basically the victim of salary cap numbers. I don't think it means any other moves are imminent.

Superbone wrote:

In2ition wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:Making room to bring on a contract? I like Barbs, and think we need old dudes on the bench. But if he can go somewhere and actually play, good for him.

Maybe. The Suns let everyone know that they are willing to take on bad contracts with young assets and/or draft picks attached. We'll see how they play this. Hopefully, something good comes along that fits #TheTimeline. BTW, I just bought a t-shirt with this tagline that I thought was clever. https://www.teepublic.com/user/CraigAhamil

That is VERY cool. You might have just sold another. It's great how you can make out all the players from their outlines. The only one I had to figure out from the process of elimination was Bender.

Sold! Ha, just noticed the wings on Dragan.

Too bad I won't have it in time for NBA Summer League in Vegas!

The Bobster wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:Making room to bring on a contract? I like Barbs, and think we need old dudes on the bench. But if he can go somewhere and actually play, good for him.

I believe his contract was fully-guaranteed tomorrow, so he's basically the victim of salary cap numbers. I don't think it means any other moves are imminent.

I thought we were under the cap.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Split T wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881940483429326852 Maybe he can find a playoff team that can use him for 10 minutes a game

Yay, the Elijah Millsap era begins!




Wut?

The Davon Reed era.

O_Gardino wrote: I thought we were under the cap.

We're now $10M under the cap. Can get down to $25M under by releasing various holds.

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote: I thought we were under the cap.

We're now $10M under the cap. Can get down to $25M under by releasing various holds.

Thanks for the info. So we are probably looking at being over the cap after signing rookies and one of Len / Williams.

I really don't mind letting Barbosa go if he has another gig lined up, or if we plan on using our cap space to bring in bad contracts and acquire assets. I just worry that our FO will think "going all in on the young guys" means everyone on the roster has to be young. That's not what it means. It means investing in the young guys we have with playing time and mentoring. I think players need mentoring from older teammates as well as coaches, and Barbs is a perfect guy for that.

O_Gardino wrote:

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote: I thought we were under the cap.

We're now $10M under the cap. Can get down to $25M under by releasing various holds.

Thanks for the info. So we are probably looking at being over the cap after signing rookies and one of Len / Williams.

I really don't mind letting Barbosa go if he has another gig lined up, or if we plan on using our cap space to bring in bad contracts and acquire assets. I just worry that our FO will think "going all in on the young guys" means everyone on the roster has to be young. That's not what it means. It means investing in the young guys we have with playing time and mentoring. I think players need mentoring from older teammates as well as coaches, and Barbs is a perfect guy for that.

I think Bledsoe who is going into his 8th year is plenty old enough. Dudley and Chandler too. A good vet at G, F & C.

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote: I thought we were under the cap.

We're now $10M under the cap. Can get down to $25M under by releasing various holds.

Thanks for the info. So we are probably looking at being over the cap after signing rookies and one of Len / Williams.

I really don't mind letting Barbosa go if he has another gig lined up, or if we plan on using our cap space to bring in bad contracts and acquire assets. I just worry that our FO will think "going all in on the young guys" means everyone on the roster has to be young. That's not what it means. It means investing in the young guys we have with playing time and mentoring. I think players need mentoring from older teammates as well as coaches, and Barbs is a perfect guy for that.

I think Bledsoe who is going into his 8th year is plenty old enough. Dudley and Chandler too. A good vet at G, F & C.

3 vets and 13 or 14 young guys? That's not the right investment in youth, IMO, especially when one of those vets is a starter. Give me 3 more who know they are not going to play, and I'll be happy. Dudes who know their playing days are behind them and are thinking about coaching as the next job. I want minutes and mentoring for the young guys.

O_Gardino wrote:

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote: I thought we were under the cap.

We're now $10M under the cap. Can get down to $25M under by releasing various holds.

Thanks for the info. So we are probably looking at being over the cap after signing rookies and one of Len / Williams.

I really don't mind letting Barbosa go if he has another gig lined up, or if we plan on using our cap space to bring in bad contracts and acquire assets. I just worry that our FO will think "going all in on the young guys" means everyone on the roster has to be young. That's not what it means. It means investing in the young guys we have with playing time and mentoring. I think players need mentoring from older teammates as well as coaches, and Barbs is a perfect guy for that.

I think Bledsoe who is going into his 8th year is plenty old enough. Dudley and Chandler too. A good vet at G, F & C.

3 vets and 13 or 14 young guys? That's not the right investment in youth, IMO, especially when one of those vets is a starter. Give me 3 more who know they are not going to play, and I'll be happy. Dudes who know their playing days are behind them and are thinking about coaching as the next job. I want minutes and mentoring for the young guys.

Vets: Bledsoe, Chandler, Dudley, James
Four seasons: Len
Three seasons: Warren, Millsap
Two seasons: Booker, Williams
One season: Bender, Chriss, Ulis
Rookies: Jackson (Freshman), Reed (Senior), Peters (Senior)

They are young, but not totally babies. Reed and Peters are much more mature than most of our other youngsters. We are fine.

I feel the opposite. Take as many stabs as you can at young talent with the roster spots available.

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote: I thought we were under the cap.

We're now $10M under the cap. Can get down to $25M under by releasing various holds.

Thanks for the info. So we are probably looking at being over the cap after signing rookies and one of Len / Williams.

I really don't mind letting Barbosa go if he has another gig lined up, or if we plan on using our cap space to bring in bad contracts and acquire assets. I just worry that our FO will think "going all in on the young guys" means everyone on the roster has to be young. That's not what it means. It means investing in the young guys we have with playing time and mentoring. I think players need mentoring from older teammates as well as coaches, and Barbs is a perfect guy for that.

I think Bledsoe who is going into his 8th year is plenty old enough. Dudley and Chandler too. A good vet at G, F & C.

I agree. Those 3 vets are just the right amount. We don't need more.

O_Gardino wrote:

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:

carey wrote:

O_Gardino wrote: I thought we were under the cap.

We're now $10M under the cap. Can get down to $25M under by releasing various holds.

Thanks for the info. So we are probably looking at being over the cap after signing rookies and one of Len / Williams.

I really don't mind letting Barbosa go if he has another gig lined up, or if we plan on using our cap space to bring in bad contracts and acquire assets. I just worry that our FO will think "going all in on the young guys" means everyone on the roster has to be young. That's not what it means. It means investing in the young guys we have with playing time and mentoring. I think players need mentoring from older teammates as well as coaches, and Barbs is a perfect guy for that.

I think Bledsoe who is going into his 8th year is plenty old enough. Dudley and Chandler too. A good vet at G, F & C.

3 vets and 13 or 14 young guys? That's not the right investment in youth, IMO, especially when one of those vets is a starter. Give me 3 more who know they are not going to play, and I'll be happy. Dudes who know their playing days are behind them and are thinking about coaching as the next job. I want minutes and mentoring for the young guys.

Two of the are starters, right? Bledsoe and Chandler.