Suns News: Weeks 16-18 2/10-3/1

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Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/10-2/16

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Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:45 am
Superbone wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:10 am
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm
emerging 3-and-D stud Mikal Bridges
:lol:
It’s not a joke. Why do you find it necessary to downplay the Suns’ players so frequently?
A career 33% 3P shooter is not a 3-D guy. He is certainly making his presence known on D, and building a reputation there, but not on the 3 part of 3-D. That is especially true when you only take 3 threes a game and play 25 minutes a night.
If we can get Cap to chime in, we'll hit the trifecta! (To be fair, you've actually become the least pessimistic of the three Indy. Kudos!).
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Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/10-2/16

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Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:45 am
Superbone wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:10 am
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm
emerging 3-and-D stud Mikal Bridges
:lol:
It’s not a joke. Why do you find it necessary to downplay the Suns’ players so frequently?
A career 33% 3P shooter is not a 3-D guy. He is certainly making his presence known on D, and building a reputation there, but not on the 3 part of 3-D. That is especially true when you only take 3 threes a game and play 25 minutes a night.
The key word is “emerging.” In December-February he is 35-91 (.385), including 12-26 (.462) in February. It’s admittedly a small sample, but recent results are good.

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Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/10-2/16

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Cap wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:26 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:45 am
Superbone wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:10 am
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm
emerging 3-and-D stud Mikal Bridges
:lol:
It’s not a joke. Why do you find it necessary to downplay the Suns’ players so frequently?
A career 33% 3P shooter is not a 3-D guy. He is certainly making his presence known on D, and building a reputation there, but not on the 3 part of 3-D. That is especially true when you only take 3 threes a game and play 25 minutes a night.
The key word is “emerging.” In December-February he is 35-91 (.385), including 12-26 (.462) in February. It’s admittedly a small sample, but recent results are good.
Agreed. If he did that for a season (+38% on 5-7 attempts per game) while maintaining his defense, then he would be a legit 3-D guy.

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AmareIsGod wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:19 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:45 am
Superbone wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:10 am
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm
emerging 3-and-D stud Mikal Bridges
:lol:
It’s not a joke. Why do you find it necessary to downplay the Suns’ players so frequently?
A career 33% 3P shooter is not a 3-D guy. He is certainly making his presence known on D, and building a reputation there, but not on the 3 part of 3-D. That is especially true when you only take 3 threes a game and play 25 minutes a night.
If we can get Cap to chime in, we'll hit the trifecta! (To be fair, you've actually become the least pessimistic of the three Indy. Kudos!).
:roll:

You can be accepting of sub 30 and sub 20 win seasons all you want. Or anoint people as gods when they aren't even a top 50 player. I am not a pessimist or an optimist. I call things like I see them, not how I wish they were.

And I love Mikal. I think it is critical to have smart basketball players from winning programs on our team. But he hasn't lived up to being a #10 pick and certainly hasn't lived up to being worth 2 first round picks. I expect him to get there, though. The way he finishes the season will be really telling.

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Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/10-2/16

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Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:30 am
AmareIsGod wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:19 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:45 am
Superbone wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:10 am
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm


:lol:
It’s not a joke. Why do you find it necessary to downplay the Suns’ players so frequently?
A career 33% 3P shooter is not a 3-D guy. He is certainly making his presence known on D, and building a reputation there, but not on the 3 part of 3-D. That is especially true when you only take 3 threes a game and play 25 minutes a night.
If we can get Cap to chime in, we'll hit the trifecta! (To be fair, you've actually become the least pessimistic of the three Indy. Kudos!).
:roll:

You can be accepting of sub 30 and sub 20 win seasons all you want. Or anoint people as gods when they aren't even a top 50 player. I am not a pessimist or an optimist. I call things like I see them, not how I wish they were.

And I love Mikal. I think it is critical to have smart basketball players from winning programs on our team. But he hasn't lived up to being a #10 pick and certainly hasn't lived up to being worth 2 first round picks. I expect him to get there, though. The way he finishes the season will be really telling.
I've been teasing you long enough now that you should know it's not intended to be taken at face value. I agree. The team is perennial bad and Mikal is showing signs of improvement but, overall, a disappointment. Let's hope he continues his upward trajectory and sustains.
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I would bet on it Spivey. ;)

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Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:45 am
Superbone wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:10 am
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm
emerging 3-and-D stud Mikal Bridges
:lol:
It’s not a joke. Why do you find it necessary to downplay the Suns’ players so frequently?
A career 33% 3P shooter is not a 3-D guy. He is certainly making his presence known on D, and building a reputation there, but not on the 3 part of 3-D. That is especially true when you only take 3 threes a game and play 25 minutes a night.
Yeah, let's forget the recent improvement on his shot why don't we? Too bad he's stuck at 33% for his career. I forgot it works that way. My bad. BTW, do you know what the word 'emergent' means?
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I am aware of what the word means. And a sample size of 50 recent shots is not a sample size you should trust, when there are 400 other shots that tell a different story.

I am very hopeful that the recent trend is going to stick, and with it he will be more willing to take open shots (and his teammates will be more willing to pass him the ball to take the open shot). But I am not going to pretend that his best 50 of his 450 3P shots is what he is yet.

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Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:19 am
I am aware of what the word means. And a sample size of 50 recent shots is not a sample size you should trust, when there are 400 other shots that tell a different story.

I am very hopeful that the recent trend is going to stick, and with it he will be more willing to take open shots (and his teammates will be more willing to pass him the ball to take the open shot). But I am not going to pretend that his best 50 of his 450 3P shots is what he is yet.
Let's not assume the reverse either. Deal?
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Superbone wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:39 am
Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:19 am
I am aware of what the word means. And a sample size of 50 recent shots is not a sample size you should trust, when there are 400 other shots that tell a different story.

I am very hopeful that the recent trend is going to stick, and with it he will be more willing to take open shots (and his teammates will be more willing to pass him the ball to take the open shot). But I am not going to pretend that his best 50 of his 450 3P shots is what he is yet.
Let's not assume the reverse either. Deal?
It isn't an assumption. His career is 33% from 3. It is great he is on a streak the last 50 shots or so. But just because Devin goes on a streak of hitting 50 FTs in a row doesn't make me say is a 100% FT shooter.

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I think all of you are emerging studs.

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Nothing to see here I hope:


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What the fuck are they even talking about?

You ever see any of the main players on a championship team talking this bullshit


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3rdside wrote:
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Nothing to see here I hope:

And to make matters worse it’s from the LA Times.
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Nodack wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:42 pm
3rdside wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:26 pm
Nothing to see here I hope:

And to make matters worse it’s from the LA Times.
Or maybe he wants to find a new home since he'll probably be pulling in $25M+ a year for the next 10 years.
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specialsauce wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:29 pm
What the fuck are they even talking about?

You ever see any of the main players on a championship team talking this bullshit

Yes.

Why are you so offended by another man's hobby or passion?

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he's just jealous of how quick Kelly can do pushups after he falls down. :P

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Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:53 pm
Nodack wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:42 pm
3rdside wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:26 pm
Nothing to see here I hope:

And to make matters worse it’s from the LA Times.
Or maybe he wants to find a new home since he'll probably be pulling in $25M+ a year for the next 10 years.
That was my thought. No way a star making 25M/year wants to just have a 4M house.

On a personal note, I just bought a house back in AZ! Well, we have an accepted offer. Can't close until May.

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Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:39 pm
On a personal note, I just bought a house back in AZ! Well, we have an accepted offer. Can't close until May.
That's great news! Congrats.

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Re: Suns News: Week 16 2/10-2/16

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Indy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:39 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:53 pm
Nodack wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:42 pm
3rdside wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:26 pm
Nothing to see here I hope:

And to make matters worse it’s from the LA Times.
Or maybe he wants to find a new home since he'll probably be pulling in $25M+ a year for the next 10 years.
That was my thought. No way a star making 25M/year wants to just have a 4M house.

On a personal note, I just bought a house back in AZ! Well, we have an accepted offer. Can't close until May.
I heard he bought a $10 mil house, so it makes sense that he's selling this one. Also, I heard that he owns a penthouse apartment in one of the high rises downtown. Sounds like he's doing just fine.
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