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Just finished the game...

Too many non-productive players out there tonight. Ayton (per usual ), Carter, CamJ, Galloway didn’t bring anything to the table.

Crowder has been Ariza-ing us til the second half when he played better.

Cam Payne has been solid.

In case you haven’t figured him out, it’s always going to be something with Ayton. Suspensions, injuries, lack of focus, tentative, out of shape, bone headed plays, head scratching decisions. The list will continue to grow and repeat.

It’s 2 games. I get it. But this shit never ends. His teammates and the Suns analysts are clearly sick of his shit.

I’m moving him before he plays himself to the bench and loses even more value. He doesn’t bring anything to this team. He’s more of a distraction than anything at this point. He’s the elephant in the room.

I don’t think I’d say Crowder has been Ariza-ing us. He’s just been missing shots..the effort is there.

Split T wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:20 am

I don’t think I’d say Crowder has been Ariza-ing us. He’s just been missing shots..the effort is there.

Yes. Please don't ever use those two names in the same sentence ever again. It's not even close!

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:50 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:20 am

I don’t think I’d say Crowder has been Ariza-ing us. He’s just been missing shots..the effort is there.

Yes. Please don't ever use those two names in the same sentence ever again. It's not even close!

Effort is there for sure. Just took a little while to produce

Crowder starting taking it to the hoop in the second quarter and became less of a drag on the offense.
At 6-6 and about 230, he needs to do that more often ...

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:05 am

WE NEED RUBIO BACK

He's 2-0!

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:26 pm

Here’s the video I’m referencing earlier. Is this even the same dude? Look at how he glides here.

PEDs.

Split T wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:20 am

I don’t think I’d say Crowder has been Ariza-ing us. He’s just been missing shots..the effort is there.

Ariza was overrated and then quit. Crowder is a bit overrated too, but I think we'll never have to worry about his effort.

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:02 pm

I think Ayton needs to lose weight. I was watching some video of him throwing down crazy warm-up dunks while at Arizona and he would explode off the floor in a way that he doesn’t anymore. He seems to have no explosiveness these days. He’s slow off the floor. Between that and his poor hands, small forwards are successfully challenging him at the rim.

It might be time to work out more than 4 days a week, big fella. Shed a few LBs and get some bounce back.

He's almost at his 2nd NBA contract, so he's probably good enough to achieve his career goals.

It seems the bandwagon for getting a real backup PF/C is getting bigger...

Indy wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:38 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:02 pm

I think Ayton needs to lose weight. I was watching some video of him throwing down crazy warm-up dunks while at Arizona and he would explode off the floor in a way that he doesn’t anymore. He seems to have no explosiveness these days. He’s slow off the floor. Between that and his poor hands, small forwards are successfully challenging him at the rim.

It might be time to work out more than 4 days a week, big fella. Shed a few LBs and get some bounce back.

He's almost at his 2nd NBA contract, so he's probably good enough to achieve his career goals.

Ouch!

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:52 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:38 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:02 pm

I think Ayton needs to lose weight. I was watching some video of him throwing down crazy warm-up dunks while at Arizona and he would explode off the floor in a way that he doesn’t anymore. He seems to have no explosiveness these days. He’s slow off the floor. Between that and his poor hands, small forwards are successfully challenging him at the rim.

It might be time to work out more than 4 days a week, big fella. Shed a few LBs and get some bounce back.

He's almost at his 2nd NBA contract, so he's probably good enough to achieve his career goals.

Ouch!

That wasn't even really a joke.

Indy wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:26 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:52 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:38 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:02 pm

I think Ayton needs to lose weight. I was watching some video of him throwing down crazy warm-up dunks while at Arizona and he would explode off the floor in a way that he doesn’t anymore. He seems to have no explosiveness these days. He’s slow off the floor. Between that and his poor hands, small forwards are successfully challenging him at the rim.

It might be time to work out more than 4 days a week, big fella. Shed a few LBs and get some bounce back.

He's almost at his 2nd NBA contract, so he's probably good enough to achieve his career goals.

Ouch!

That wasn't even really a joke.

I think that makes it hurt even more.

Indy wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:39 pm

It seems the bandwagon for getting a real backup PF/C is getting bigger...

What about a real starting PF/C?

...

Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:12 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:39 pm

It seems the bandwagon for getting a real backup PF/C is getting bigger...

What about a real starting PF/C?

...

I think Crowder is a fine starting PF against most teams, especially if you have a similarly skilled PF on the bench to play about equal minutes.

Getting a real starting C is a different problem...

Crowder’s shot has been awol so far.