That’s cool but Sengun defense is really terrible, that’s not reaching, that’s fact. If you want to call him Jokic like offensively, fine, but defensively he’s very much like Enes Kanter which is to say they both are really bad defenders as big men, which is all I was saying.
That’s cool but Sengun defense is really terrible, that’s not reaching, that’s fact. If you want to call him Jokic like offensively, fine, but defensively he’s very much like Enes Kanter which is to say they both are really bad defenders as big men, which is all I was saying.
Fair enough. Jokic hasn't been a good defender and he won the league MVP.
That’s cool but Sengun defense is really terrible, that’s not reaching, that’s fact. If you want to call him Jokic like offensively, fine, but defensively he’s very much like Enes Kanter which is to say they both are really bad defenders as big men, which is all I was saying.
Fair enough. Jokic hasn't been a good defender and he won the league MVP.
If I recall his defensive metrics weren't super awful, I could be wrong though.
Re: Suns News: Weeks 19 & 20 (2/20 - 3/5)
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:36 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
He (Jokic) has definitely improved defensively every season.
Re: Suns News: Weeks 19 & 20 (2/20 - 3/5)
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:04 pm
by Split T
His defensive metrics(depending on what ones you look at) think he’s an all-nba quality defender. The metrics suck.
Re: Suns News: Weeks 19 & 20 (2/20 - 3/5)
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:34 pm
by Wally_West
There has been several times this year where Sengun was benched due to how bad his defense was and several times where teammates were visibly upset because how bad he was getting cooked. He is not a good defender.
Then again, it’s the rockets and his coach is Steve Silas and he is only 20.
Re: Suns News: Weeks 19 & 20 (2/20 - 3/5)
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:39 pm
by Split T
I like Sengun, but as a prospect. He doesn’t make sense as our starting C with Booker/KD…I’m with you WW, his defense makes him rough
Re: Suns News: Weeks 19 & 20 (2/20 - 3/5)
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:41 pm
by Wally_West
I don’t think Jokic is a terrible defender but he’s not very good, but I’ve seen several times over the past couple season where he had big defensive plays at the end of games. He’s a mixed bag for sure.
Re: Suns News: Weeks 19 & 20 (2/20 - 3/5)
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:45 pm
by Split T
He’s a smart defender, but he’s not a flexible defender. You can attack him because he can only play one scheme at a decent level.
Re: Suns News: Weeks 19 & 20 (2/20 - 3/5)
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:15 pm
by TOO
Lemme tell ya, if Ayton was just a smart system defender and an elite offensive force that'd be just peachy.
Re: Suns News: Weeks 19 & 20 (2/20 - 3/5)
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:10 am
by Mori Chu
Given the core of our roster, you want defense from your center more than offense. Karl Anthony Towns for example would be awful on this team because he'd want to chuck up a bunch of shots and plays crappy defense. I don't see why a guy like Sengun would be a good swap for Ayton.
Given the core of our roster, you want defense from your center more than offense. Karl Anthony Towns for example would be awful on this team because he'd want to chuck up a bunch of shots and plays crappy defense. I don't see why a guy like Sengun would be a good swap for Ayton.
How excited are you going to be when we trade DA for Looney and draymond
Given the core of our roster, you want defense from your center more than offense. Karl Anthony Towns for example would be awful on this team because he'd want to chuck up a bunch of shots and plays crappy defense. I don't see why a guy like Sengun would be a good swap for Ayton.
I never implied a straight swap in a trade.
Sengun's potential trajectory is much more vertical than Ayton's at this point, IMO. Getting a bit younger isn't a terrible idea, but I think the Suns would look more towards someone like Capella that Split mentioned.
Re: Suns News: Weeks 19 & 20 (2/20 - 3/5)
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:35 pm
by Split T
The problem with the Draymond scenario is he’d either have to opt in to his player option and then be traded or we’d have to sign and trade for him and I’m not sure we can do that and stay under the hard cap.
I’d look at Atlanta for Capela plus a wing or Indy for Turner plus a wing.
C'mon Wally...