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Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:21 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:16 pm
Looking at that replay, Ishbia isn’t even looking at Jokic…he seems to be looking down at Okogie who flew into the stands. Jokic just comes up and tries to rip it out of his hands…I think instinct is to hold on…then the ball flew further back and that’s when Jokic shoves Mat…Just a bad look for Jokic. Ya maybe Ishbia could have gotten the ball back quicker, but the ball has to go to the ref. What was Jokic in such a hurry for anyways…would the refs have let him inbound while Okogie was in the stands? I feel like they would’ve held the ball until Okogie was back in the court.
I kinda hope Jokic plays though…I won’t cry if he’s suspended obviously, but I don’t want to hear all the whining from people that we only won because Jokic was suspended.
I don't care about the whining. I just want to win a championship. We were robbed in 2007, so it's only fair game anyway.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:22 pm
by Cap
What’s this “can’t toss the owner” nonsense? Ishbia absolutely should have been tossed for the crap he pulled. I’m not saying don’t let him come back for Game 6, but that should have been it for him for the night.
That being said, Jokic definitely earned his tech, a fine, and maybe a suspension.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:23 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
What exactly did Ishbia do wrong in that situation?
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:24 pm
by JeremyG
Wally_West wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 7:40 pm
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 7:36 pm
Big question is whether they are going to suspend Jokic, it was a bad look.
It’s going to be interesting.
What about #3? How about "a thrown elbow toward an
owner at or above shoulder level
with contact"?
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:25 pm
by AmareIsGod
Cap wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:22 pm
What’s this “can’t toss the owner” nonsense? Ishbia absolutely should have been tossed for the crap he pulled. I’m not saying don’t let him come back for Game 6, but that should have been it for him for the night.
That being said, Jokic definitely earned his tech, a fine, and maybe a suspension.
Can you or anyone show a replay where Ishbia is holding the ball and refusing to give it to Jokic and getting in his face? No idea TF people are getting all over him about. You all make it sound like he ran to the ball, grabbed it and played fucking keep away. What crap did he pull? Ball falls in owners lap and he doesn't play hot potato and chuck it immediately?
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:28 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Pool Report on the Nikola Jokic Technical Foul in the Second Quarter of Tonight’s Game 4 Matchup between the Denver Nuggets and Phoenix Suns
https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on ... enix-suns/
The Pool Report interview was conducted by Duane Rankin (Arizona Republic) with Crew Chief Tony Brothers following tonight’s Denver Nuggets at Phoenix Suns game.
May 7, 2023
QUESTION: Why did Nikola Jokic receive an unsportsmanlike technical foul for the fan exchange late in the first half?
BROTHERS: The ball went over into the corner there and one of the fans was holding the ball. Jokic came to get the ball, grabbed it away from the fan, then after that he deliberately gave him a shove and pushed him down, so he was issued an unsportsmanlike technical foul.
QUESTION: So, he pushed the fan down?
BROTHERS: Yes
QUESTION: It’s the same fan that had the ball, right?
BROTHERS: The fan no longer had the ball, but it was the fan that started with the ball.
QUESTION: What led to him getting the unsportsmanlike technical foul instead of being ejected?
BROTHERS: I just deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty for what happened over there. He didn’t just run over and hit a fan. There was some engagement, so I deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:28 pm
by Wally_West
I think he gets a decent fine and that’s it.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:32 pm
by JeremyG
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:28 pm
Pool Report on the Nikola Jokic Technical Foul in the Second Quarter of Tonight’s Game 4 Matchup between the Denver Nuggets and Phoenix Suns
https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on ... enix-suns/
The Pool Report interview was conducted by Duane Rankin (Arizona Republic) with Crew Chief Tony Brothers following tonight’s Denver Nuggets at Phoenix Suns game.
May 7, 2023
QUESTION: Why did Nikola Jokic receive an unsportsmanlike technical foul for the fan exchange late in the first half?
BROTHERS: The ball went over into the corner there and one of the fans was holding the ball. Jokic came to get the ball, grabbed it away from the fan, then after that he deliberately gave him a shove and pushed him down, so he was issued an unsportsmanlike technical foul.
QUESTION: So, he pushed the fan down?
BROTHERS: Yes
QUESTION: It’s the same fan that had the ball, right?
BROTHERS: The fan no longer had the ball, but it was the fan that started with the ball.
QUESTION: What led to him getting the unsportsmanlike technical foul instead of being ejected?
BROTHERS: I just deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty for what happened over there. He didn’t just run over and hit a fan. There was some engagement, so I deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty.
Did Tony Brothers not know who the "fan" was? Did that factor into it?
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:34 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:32 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:28 pm
Pool Report on the Nikola Jokic Technical Foul in the Second Quarter of Tonight’s Game 4 Matchup between the Denver Nuggets and Phoenix Suns
https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on ... enix-suns/
The Pool Report interview was conducted by Duane Rankin (Arizona Republic) with Crew Chief Tony Brothers following tonight’s Denver Nuggets at Phoenix Suns game.
May 7, 2023
QUESTION: Why did Nikola Jokic receive an unsportsmanlike technical foul for the fan exchange late in the first half?
BROTHERS: The ball went over into the corner there and one of the fans was holding the ball. Jokic came to get the ball, grabbed it away from the fan, then after that he deliberately gave him a shove and pushed him down, so he was issued an unsportsmanlike technical foul.
QUESTION: So, he pushed the fan down?
BROTHERS: Yes
QUESTION: It’s the same fan that had the ball, right?
BROTHERS: The fan no longer had the ball, but it was the fan that started with the ball.
QUESTION: What led to him getting the unsportsmanlike technical foul instead of being ejected?
BROTHERS: I just deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty for what happened over there. He didn’t just run over and hit a fan. There was some engagement, so I deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty.
Did Tony Brothers not know who the "fan" was? Did that factor into it?
It's irrelevant and shouldn't be a factor.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:36 pm
by ShadowHawke
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:34 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:32 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:28 pm
Pool Report on the Nikola Jokic Technical Foul in the Second Quarter of Tonight’s Game 4 Matchup between the Denver Nuggets and Phoenix Suns
https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on ... enix-suns/
The Pool Report interview was conducted by Duane Rankin (Arizona Republic) with Crew Chief Tony Brothers following tonight’s Denver Nuggets at Phoenix Suns game.
May 7, 2023
QUESTION: Why did Nikola Jokic receive an unsportsmanlike technical foul for the fan exchange late in the first half?
BROTHERS: The ball went over into the corner there and one of the fans was holding the ball. Jokic came to get the ball, grabbed it away from the fan, then after that he deliberately gave him a shove and pushed him down, so he was issued an unsportsmanlike technical foul.
QUESTION: So, he pushed the fan down?
BROTHERS: Yes
QUESTION: It’s the same fan that had the ball, right?
BROTHERS: The fan no longer had the ball, but it was the fan that started with the ball.
QUESTION: What led to him getting the unsportsmanlike technical foul instead of being ejected?
BROTHERS: I just deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty for what happened over there. He didn’t just run over and hit a fan. There was some engagement, so I deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty.
Did Tony Brothers not know who the "fan" was? Did that factor into it?
It's irrelevant and shouldn't be a factor.
I doubt the NBA Board of Governors would feel that way.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:37 pm
by JeremyG
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:34 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:32 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:28 pm
Pool Report on the Nikola Jokic Technical Foul in the Second Quarter of Tonight’s Game 4 Matchup between the Denver Nuggets and Phoenix Suns
https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on ... enix-suns/
The Pool Report interview was conducted by Duane Rankin (Arizona Republic) with Crew Chief Tony Brothers following tonight’s Denver Nuggets at Phoenix Suns game.
May 7, 2023
QUESTION: Why did Nikola Jokic receive an unsportsmanlike technical foul for the fan exchange late in the first half?
BROTHERS: The ball went over into the corner there and one of the fans was holding the ball. Jokic came to get the ball, grabbed it away from the fan, then after that he deliberately gave him a shove and pushed him down, so he was issued an unsportsmanlike technical foul.
QUESTION: So, he pushed the fan down?
BROTHERS: Yes
QUESTION: It’s the same fan that had the ball, right?
BROTHERS: The fan no longer had the ball, but it was the fan that started with the ball.
QUESTION: What led to him getting the unsportsmanlike technical foul instead of being ejected?
BROTHERS: I just deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty for what happened over there. He didn’t just run over and hit a fan. There was some engagement, so I deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty.
Did Tony Brothers not know who the "fan" was? Did that factor into it?
It's irrelevant and shouldn't be a factor.
Well we're about to find out if the league takes that post-Malice zero tolerance policy seriously or not.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:40 pm
by Wally_West
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:41 pm
by Wally_West
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:41 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Jeremy, you're overreacting and the tattletale act is off-putting.
It's slightly above nothing and the technical foul was a just penalty in that situation.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:43 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Much like Mike Malone, this is flat out a misrepresentation of the events.
The one fan put a hand on Jokic after he made contact with Ishbia, and that fan was ejected.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:46 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:34 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:32 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:28 pm
Pool Report on the Nikola Jokic Technical Foul in the Second Quarter of Tonight’s Game 4 Matchup between the Denver Nuggets and Phoenix Suns
https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on ... enix-suns/
The Pool Report interview was conducted by Duane Rankin (Arizona Republic) with Crew Chief Tony Brothers following tonight’s Denver Nuggets at Phoenix Suns game.
May 7, 2023
QUESTION: Why did Nikola Jokic receive an unsportsmanlike technical foul for the fan exchange late in the first half?
BROTHERS: The ball went over into the corner there and one of the fans was holding the ball. Jokic came to get the ball, grabbed it away from the fan, then after that he deliberately gave him a shove and pushed him down, so he was issued an unsportsmanlike technical foul.
QUESTION: So, he pushed the fan down?
BROTHERS: Yes
QUESTION: It’s the same fan that had the ball, right?
BROTHERS: The fan no longer had the ball, but it was the fan that started with the ball.
QUESTION: What led to him getting the unsportsmanlike technical foul instead of being ejected?
BROTHERS: I just deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty for what happened over there. He didn’t just run over and hit a fan. There was some engagement, so I deemed the technical foul the appropriate penalty.
Did Tony Brothers not know who the "fan" was? Did that factor into it?
It's irrelevant and shouldn't be a factor.
Hey, these things have been relevant for us in the past...why should we always get th arse end of karma?
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:48 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Wanting Jokic to be suspended because of "karma" is loser-type shit.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:56 pm
by djy2j
God bless you Landry! He made me look foolish explaining to the girl I was with that he was the worst player on the team and shouldn't be playing. Happy to be wrong tonight.
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 9:08 pm
by JeremyG
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:41 pm
Jeremy, you're overreacting and the tattletale act is off-putting.
It's slightly above nothing and the technical foul was a just penalty in that situation.
What tattletale act?
Re: Western Conference Round 2, Game 4: Nuggets (2-1) @ Suns (1-2), Sun 5/07/23
Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 9:16 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:48 pm
Wanting Jokic to be suspended because of "karma" is loser-type shit.
Meh...want?maybe not...but if the league were to decide to do do, then...call it what you will, but that would be an opportunity...and opportunities are seized to reach outcomes. We don't control that decision, it's completely in the hands of league officials...but...if it happens...are you going to protest and say we should take a pass on the game or something? Steve and Amare didn't get out first or their ring at all because of an overzealous front office...did we get any kind of recompense for that? I don't recall if the Spurs went on to win it all...I think they did...so, did t get they get saddled with an asterisk? Uhhhh....no. So...IF...the league makes that decision, than we seize the moment...and move on.