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Indy wrote:

SwingMan wrote: Bledsoe's looking over his shoulder and seeing Isaiah Thomas fill up his back window - looks like he lost that chip on the way to 7 fucking turnovers.

As great as IT was scoring and getting to the line, he had quite a few TOs too.

Isaiah had 3 TO's while playing the exact same amount of minutes (23) - IT also got to the line 9 times and generally ignited the team.

I like Bledsoe and support him, but, despite 4-5 shooting, he was a net negative last night - especially on defense, where Williams completely ate him up.

SwingMan wrote:

Indy wrote:

SwingMan wrote: Bledsoe's looking over his shoulder and seeing Isaiah Thomas fill up his back window - looks like he lost that chip on the way to 7 fucking turnovers.

As great as IT was scoring and getting to the line, he had quite a few TOs too.

Isaiah had 3 TO's while playing the exact same amount of minutes (23) - IT also got to the line 9 times and generally ignited the team.

I like Bledsoe and support him, but, despite 4-5 shooting, he was a net negative last night - especially on defense, where Williams completely ate him up.

More of an observation than a complaint, Swing. But I want more than 1 assist for every +10 minutes from our PG, and less than 1.5 TOs for every assist.

INFORMER wrote:20-23 from the free throw line for Thomas and Green and both played less than 30 minutes. Ridiculous.

Our entire starting line up took 3 FTs. 3! In 144 minutes!

Indy wrote:

SwingMan wrote:

Indy wrote:

SwingMan wrote: Bledsoe's looking over his shoulder and seeing Isaiah Thomas fill up his back window - looks like he lost that chip on the way to 7 fucking turnovers.

As great as IT was scoring and getting to the line, he had quite a few TOs too.

Isaiah had 3 TO's while playing the exact same amount of minutes (23) - IT also got to the line 9 times and generally ignited the team.

I like Bledsoe and support him, but, despite 4-5 shooting, he was a net negative last night - especially on defense, where Williams completely ate him up.

More of an observation than a complaint, Swing. But I want more than 1 assist for every +10 minutes from our PG, and less than 1.5 TOs for every assist.

Who the hell do you think was arguing all summer and half of last season for there to be a 2.5/1 ast/TO ratio incentive to be built into whatever deal Bledsoe would get from us?

All I'm saying is Bledsoe pissed all over himself last night while Thomas sparked us - no need to argue the point. Yes, 10 turnovers from half of our backcourt rotation is bad, but, while Bledsoe was next to invisible in his impact (aside from the turnovers), Thomas, with some steadying from Dragic, came in and got us rolling.

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what makes it stand out is that it is so un-gerald green like.

he looks like an european euro-stepping his way to the hoop and finishing below the rim with the left hand (while jumping on the wrong foot)

can the knicks refuse young talent?

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6521773

oh, and please resign gerald green.

add: hope amare practices shooting threes. i know he has it in his game.

SDC wrote:can the knicks refuse young talent?

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6521773

oh, and please resign gerald green.

add: hope amare practices shooting threes. i know he has it in his game.

Why the hell would we make that trade?

I have no idea.

You trollin, SDC?

you have any better idea?

SDC wrote:you have any better idea?

Burying my head in a cow's anus is a better idea.

Chaos. Chaos and hero ball everywhere. You can't turn off the TV because even when down by 20 it can change in one quarter.

Entertaining but frustrating. We can't start every game one quarter late though, especially when it comes to defensive effort. I agree about inserting PJ back in the starting lineup. Marcus has improved but Tucker still makes everything harder for the opposite team. His defensive rebounding makes a real difference.

Green and IT3 took over, TOs and questionable shot selection aside. And it seemed like Dragic should have gone off for 30 points. He could drive at will but once near the basket he seemed to have no explosion so he had to look for a pass. There's a discernible contrast here with IT3. Goran's shooting looks way better, with more arch, and his pass between JJ's legs to Marcus was awesome.

Bledsoe keeps turning the ball over, although a number of his TOs can be attributed to the weak hands of our big men. As others have pointed, he was important during the third quarter, and still makes baskets at a good %, but he is looking like the one having the most trouble adjusting to the new roles.

Speaking of turnovers, Jarret Jack gave us life with his bad decisions. He probably costed them the game.

The twins had their quietest game so far. Kieff settled for tough shots that he couldn't hit against KG, instead of taking his quadragenary legs off the dribble. They have to be more aggresive on the boards. And please, read the scouting reports. If you are going to play against a stretch forward, don't let him open. That's all you have to do against these types. Draymond Green and Teletovic are not going to drive by you.

Plumlee finished with nice numbers, but this time they were better than his actual game. Lopez didn't play a lot, but he dominated inside. Len and Miles need to learn how to secure put backs and grab the ball in general.

Tolliver 'played', but all he did was faking 3pt shots and passing the ball. A couple of times it was the right option, but if he is not hitting them he is not going to play, because otherwise he is basically invisible.

Again, the best part was walking away with a win where the game was basically lost in the first half.

You trollin SDC?

Never.

Speaking of turnovers, Jarret Jack gave us life with his bad decisions. He probably costed them the game.

Couldn't agree more. I kept thinking to myself, thank god they have Jack.

I dont think either Morris is as effective without the other on the court. The key to starting Tucker is finding a better starting pf so the twins can play together with the second unit.

The change from Livingston to Jack was one of the main reason as to why I thought the Nets would be fighting for the last playoff spot in the east.

OE32 wrote:

SDC wrote:you have any better idea?

Burying my head in a cow's anus is a better idea.

I can get a good look by sticking my head up there but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.

Dan H wrote:

OE32 wrote:

SDC wrote:you have any better idea?

Burying my head in a cow's anus is a better idea.

I can get a good look by sticking my head up there but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.

Whatever happened to that little coat?

JCSunsfan wrote:I dont think either Morris is as effective without the other on the court. The key to starting Tucker is finding a better starting pf so the twins can play together with the second unit.

Of our 5-man floor units (per 82games), only 9 of the top 20 are + in the +/-. Of those 9, 3 have Markieff without Marcus, and another 2 have Marcus without Markieff.

This is a very small sample size though, and doesn't include our last game.

By the way, our best +/- line up is Dragic, Bleds, Green, Kieff, and Len. But as of this past Sunday, they had only played 5 minutes together. Tied with that team is another one with +9, and has played 12 minutes. It is Thomas, Tucker, Green, Tolliver (?), and Len.

Thomas is in every >0 +/- we have except 1.