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Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:15 pm
by carey
And they are having a terrible 2nd Q.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:52 pm
by Mori Chu
I think the Warriors will put away the Blazers, even without Curry, in 5-6 games tops. They're just too talented, well-coached, and confident.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:45 pm
by JCSunsfan
Well. We certainly have the emergence of team basketball in the NBA. The Spurs haven't had a lottery pick since Tim Duncan, who is now a secondary piece in this team. But they have multi talented players who play smart team ball. And I still hate Pop.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:51 pm
by Mori Chu
The trade that got them Kawhi Leonard for George Hill was an absolute heist. Franchise-changing trade.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 4:19 pm
by carey
Klay has hit 21 3's over a 3-game stretch. The guy on SportsCenter said it was a record for a 3 game stretch but I just had to look at Curry's game log to see that just this season over a 3 game stretch he hit 28 from 2/24-2/27. Maybe he meant the playoffs.

Edit: And another one of 22 from 1/14-1/18. Another of 22 from 12/2-12/6.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:45 pm
by Shabazz
Wally_West wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:There've been many big time scoring duos in the league, but when was it the last time two guys so potent had to share the ball at the perimeter? Melo and Iverson? Nuggets again with Kiki and English. I guess LeBron and Wade. When in history has this been a success? One of them not being a big man makes things way harder. I suppose they won't, but I wonder if OKC wouldn't be better off trading Westbrook for a beta sidekick to Durant and real depth. Chicago could offer Butler and pieces, Boston with IT4+, maybe Griffin in a megatrade with Paul as well. Cousins alongside KD would be scary...
Klay Thompson and Steph Curry?
LeBron and Wade?

Also, they may not have the most creative offense designed around them, but neither Durant nor Westbrook are selfish players. It's silly to label them "ball-hog chuckers."

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 8:13 am
by LazarusLong
Ring_Wanted wrote:There've been many big time scoring duos in the league, but when was it the last time two guys so potent had to share the ball at the perimeter? ...

Jordan and Pippen were sorta good, and their teams had a tendency to do well in the playoffs...

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 8:45 am
by djy2j
Mori Chu wrote:The trade that got them Kawhi Leonard for George Hill was an absolute heist. Franchise-changing trade.
I agree with you but here in Indy it's funny. Most die-hards will tell you that they are happy with George Hill. I don't really get it. He's OK. But he's not a leader and tends to disappear a lot in games that matter. He's a 2nd option when he's at his best and a 4th option when he's not being assertive.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 8:57 am
by Ring_Wanted
LazarusLong wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:There've been many big time scoring duos in the league, but when was it the last time two guys so potent had to share the ball at the perimeter? ...

Jordan and Pippen were sorta good, and their teams had a tendency to do well in the playoffs...
Heheh. They were meh I guess.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 2:39 pm
by Mori Chu
djy2j wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:The trade that got them Kawhi Leonard for George Hill was an absolute heist. Franchise-changing trade.
I agree with you but here in Indy it's funny. Most die-hards will tell you that they are happy with George Hill. I don't really get it. He's OK. But he's not a leader and tends to disappear a lot in games that matter. He's a 2nd option when he's at his best and a 4th option when he's not being assertive.
I don't blame Indy for that trade. Kahwi wasn't a 100% sure thing, and Hill was an impressive young PG with a steady hand who had been trained in the Pop/Spurs system. They got good known value for an asset of uncertain value, at a time when they really wanted a veteran guard presence.

But, in retrospect, oops.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:27 pm
by Indy
Mori Chu wrote:
djy2j wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:The trade that got them Kawhi Leonard for George Hill was an absolute heist. Franchise-changing trade.
I agree with you but here in Indy it's funny. Most die-hards will tell you that they are happy with George Hill. I don't really get it. He's OK. But he's not a leader and tends to disappear a lot in games that matter. He's a 2nd option when he's at his best and a 4th option when he's not being assertive.
I don't blame Indy for that trade. Kahwi wasn't a 100% sure thing, and Hill was an impressive young PG with a steady hand who had been trained in the Pop/Spurs system. They got good known value for an asset of uncertain value, at a time when they really wanted a veteran guard presence.

But, in retrospect, oops.
I don't think Leonard becomes who he is today while playing in Indy.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 4:11 pm
by ShelC
Exactly.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 10:10 pm
by Mori Chu
BTW, the finish of Spurs/OKC Game 2 was crazy. Thought for sure the Spurs were going to find some way to get a basket and win by 1.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 12:19 am
by Superbone
I for one loved the elbowing of Ginobili no call.

Re: RE: Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 6:31 am
by carey
Superbone wrote:I for one loved the elbowing of Ginobili no call.
Do you think years of flopping & his reputation played into the no call? Or that he stepped on the line?

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:27 am
by Mori Chu
I don't know why the Spurs and their fans are whining about that last play. Even if Waiters elbowed Ginobili, the Spurs got the ball and had a, what, 3-on-1 fastbreak? And they had a couple decent looks and shots and they couldn't convert. They also could have called a timeout if they'd wanted to. They got their chance, but it just didn't work out. Fair ending. Hats off to the Thunder.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:30 am
by ShelC
I don't even think he really elbowed him. Looked like more of a push off in his chest and Manu flopped a bit. But yea, they had their chances on the fastbreak.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:32 am
by Indy
You couldn't have given them a better break, and they couldn't convert, at home. Strange.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:17 am
by LazarusLong
Superbone wrote:I for one loved the elbowing of Ginobili no call.
If you look carefully at the replay, Ginobili steps over the inbounds line, an infraction that within the final two minutes I believe merits a technical.

So it was a good non-call by the ref.

If you also look at the same clip, Leonard is shoving his man partially out of bounds and then holding his jersey as he comes back in. That could be a foul there.

Re: 2nd round playoffs thread

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:31 am
by Indy
LazarusLong wrote:
Superbone wrote:I for one loved the elbowing of Ginobili no call.
If you look carefully at the replay, Ginobili steps over the inbounds line, an infraction that within the final two minutes I believe merits a technical.

So it was a good non-call by the ref.

If you also look at the same clip, Leonard is shoving his man partially out of bounds and then holding his jersey as he comes back in. That could be a foul there.
There were a good 6 or 7 violations by both teams on that last play. I hate the way games are officiated. I certainly don't want to see 7 infractions called on that play, but I want the players to know that if you break the rules, you are going to get called. Instead , they know that at the end of the game, you have to murder someone to get called out. So they are trying not to murder someone, instead of playing their best.