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Sunsfan4life wrote:Adds fuel to the Dunn to Chicago rumors. Probabaly for Boston's 3...maybe Suns 4?

You know what? I don't want Butler for #4. He's a max player with four years left on his contract. Our window is not in the next four years. This is the wrong time to be splurging on a player like Butler, especially at the same position as Booker. This is the time to try to build through the draft.

Yeah, there's nobody available at #4 who doesn't have issues. We're taking a risk on a draft pick as opposed to a proven All-Star like Butler. But this is the right time to be taking those chances.

Cap wrote:

Sunsfan4life wrote:Adds fuel to the Dunn to Chicago rumors. Probabaly for Boston's 3...maybe Suns 4?

You know what? I don't want Butler for #4. He's a max player with four years left on his contract. Our window is not in the next four years. This is the wrong time to be splurging on a player like Butler, especially at the same position as Booker. This is the time to try to build through the draft.

Yeah, there's nobody available at #4 who doesn't have issues. We're taking a risk on a draft pick as opposed to a proven All-Star like Butler. But this is the right time to be taking those chances.

That's a big WORD for me.

Speaking of taking chances, why not trade Bled for, say, the #6, take Dunn at #4 and either Bender or Chriss at #6?

I wouldn't know what to do with #13 in that scenario, but whatevs.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Sunsfan4life wrote:Rose is a trainwreck. What are the Knicks doing?

Being the Knicks.

The Knicks have always chased "superstars" that might not have been a good idea even at the time -

Walt Bellamy
Bob McAdoo
Spencer Haywood
Larry Johnson
Amar'e Stoudemire
Carmelo Anthony
Derrick Rose

The Bobster wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Sunsfan4life wrote:Rose is a trainwreck. What are the Knicks doing?

Being the Knicks.

The Knicks have always chased "superstars" that might not have been a good idea even at the time -

Walt Bellamy
Bob McAdoo
Spencer Haywood
Larry Johnson
Amar'e Stoudemire
Carmelo Anthony
Derrick Rose

Alan Houston
Marbury

You're right. This is what they do.

Atlanta sends Jeff Teague to Indiana
Indiana sends George Hill to Utah
Utah sends the 12th pick to Atlanta

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16426 ... -utah-jazz

I know their are a lot of questions on what the Knicks just did but it could work out really well for them.

Dwight Howard would like to go to the Knicks, he would be Lopez's replacement. Will they resign Afflalo?

c - Howard (FA)
PF - Porzingis
SF- Anthony
G - Rose
G - Afflalo (FA)

If healthy that is a pretty impressive group. I expect it is Phil Jackson's last gasp at another championship.

Hornacek apparently is loving life. He got a raise and players that might give him a chance to win.

A little more exciting than coaching, your Phoenix Suns.

JustWinBaby wrote:I know their are a lot of questions on what the Knicks just did but it could work out really well for them.

Dwight Howard would like to go to the Knicks, he would be Lopez's replacement. Will they resign Afflalo?

c - Howard (FA)
PF - Porzingis
SF- Anthony
G - Rose
G - Afflalo (FA)

If healthy that is a pretty impressive group. I expect it is Phil Jackson's last gasp at another championship.

Hornacek apparently is loving life. He got a raise and players that might give him a chance to win.

A little more exciting than coaching, your Phoenix Suns.

Except Rose has averaged 33 games a year over the last five and he's not the same player he used to be, and Howard has averaged 62 over the same period and he's not the same player he used to be either.

The Bobster wrote:

JustWinBaby wrote:I know their are a lot of questions on what the Knicks just did but it could work out really well for them.

Dwight Howard would like to go to the Knicks, he would be Lopez's replacement. Will they resign Afflalo?

c - Howard (FA)
PF - Porzingis
SF- Anthony
G - Rose
G - Afflalo (FA)

If healthy that is a pretty impressive group. I expect it is Phil Jackson's last gasp at another championship.

Hornacek apparently is loving life. He got a raise and players that might give him a chance to win.

A little more exciting than coaching, your Phoenix Suns.

Except Rose has averaged 33 games a year over the last five and he's not the same player he used to be, and Howard has averaged 62 over the same period and he's not the same player he used to be either.

I totally understand where you are coming from. They also have Ball hog #1, Ball hog #2, responsible for getting the ball to Superman. This could be an epic failure but if somehow they can stay healthy and somehow play together Porzingis could flourish, if he ever sees the ball.

It will be fun to watch at the very least.

Gambo says Bogdan is staying in Europe. No surprise there.

OE32 wrote:Gambo says Bogdan is staying in Europe. No surprise there.

This is what happens in the current salary climate when you draft and stash at the end of the first round. Needs to be mid-first round or second round. Otherwise, it will likely be a 3 year wait.

The Bobster wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Sunsfan4life wrote:Rose is a trainwreck. What are the Knicks doing?

Being the Knicks.

The Knicks have always chased "superstars" that might not have been a good idea even at the time -

Walt Bellamy
Bob McAdoo
Spencer Haywood
Larry Johnson
Amar'e Stoudemire
Carmelo Anthony
Derrick Rose

what's the harm in pursuing rose? he's an expiring contract. porzingas will take over lopez starting role at center.

That Knicks roster is horrible. Rose is overpaid garbage. I guess they can just play him a year and then let him leave.

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:That Knicks roster is horrible. Rose is overpaid garbage. I guess they can just play him a year and then let him leave.

when your guard rotation stinks, you can afford to take chances on plyaers like rose for 1 year.

How bout the Kings only getting 1 top 30 prospect (Wade Baldwin) to workout for them. AND THEY HAVE THE 8TH PICK!!

Wow...Apparently Agents were refusing to give them medicals too, they had to get them from 3rd parties....wow.

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:That Knicks roster is horrible. Rose is overpaid garbage. I guess they can just play him a year and then let him leave.

SDC wrote:

The Bobster wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Sunsfan4life wrote:Rose is a trainwreck. What are the Knicks doing?

Being the Knicks.

The Knicks have always chased "superstars" that might not have been a good idea even at the time -

Walt Bellamy
Bob McAdoo
Spencer Haywood
Larry Johnson
Amar'e Stoudemire
Carmelo Anthony
Derrick Rose

what's the harm in pursuing rose? he's an expiring contract. porzingas will take over lopez starting role at center.

Lopez by himself was arguably more valuable than Rose. He's a good player on a good contract. They also gave up their draft pick from last season, one of the few young players on their roster. Other than the Knicks the market for Rose was very shallow, they had leverage and gave up too much.

If they go out and sign Horford (IMO, a much better fit next to Kristaps than Howard), that would change my opinion of the trade.

Thad Young to Pacers for 20th and future 2nd rounder
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746038398486470656

Gross. Pacers murdered their cap space in 2 days. Thad isn't bad but who is playing defense on that team now?

Indy wrote:Thad Young to Pacers for 20th and future 2nd rounder
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746038398486470656

So we ended up getting a better deal for Keef, despite character issues, than the Nets got for Thad. Not bad.

OE32 wrote:

Indy wrote:Thad Young to Pacers for 20th and future 2nd rounder
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746038398486470656

So we ended up getting a better deal for Keef, despite character issues, than the Nets got for Thad. Not bad.

That doesn't bode well for trading Knight tonight.