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Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:35 am
by O_Gardino
Cap wrote:
carey wrote:Lets check in on Knicks fans really quick...

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Word filtering breaks the link. :lol:
This made my morning.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:59 am
by carey
O_Gardino wrote: The injuries this season are crazy. Crappy year, dudes.
Football had a really bad year with this as well. Any theories on why? Just random? Something wrong with the way athletes are training? I actually wonder if the way they've limited practice and workout time in recent CBAs has somehow harmed athletes. Just a guess though. Could be a million things or just randomness.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:02 am
by Superbone
carey wrote:
O_Gardino wrote: The injuries this season are crazy. Crappy year, dudes.
Football had a really bad year with this as well. Any theories on why? Just random? Something wrong with the way athletes are training? I actually wonder if the way they've limited practice and workout time in recent CBAs has somehow harmed athletes. Just a guess though. Could be a million things or just randomness.
Well, there was the shortened preseason and early season start.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:08 am
by O_Gardino
Sorry for the repost, Carey.

ESPN trade deadline preview.

They say that there really isn't a market for expiring contracts like there used to be. To get a pick for a expiring contract, you have to take back a bad contract AND get a player who helps your team now.

Basically, we would have to give up Warren (or someone perceived as valuable) and take back Noah (or someone on a horrendous contract) to get a pick. That's the market right now. There is no market for a pure salary dump like we wanted to do with Monroe.
executives across the league are using the same word to describe the market: "clogged."
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scan the pile of available guys on long-term deals and realize: There might not be a single one the Jazz want. Ditto for Dallas (sitting on $13 million in cap space), Phoenix ($10 million), or any team dangling a big expiring contract.
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[teams that made trades] bolstered their roster, and got off dead money. That double merited forking over a pick...Doing both of those things in one trade is hard. Capped-out teams really, really do not want to cough up a first-rounder to accomplish just one of them
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Only a half-dozen or so teams have real room this summer. A few of those -- Atlanta, Phoenix, probably Chicago -- seem disinclined to spend it on veterans.
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Teams are going to get good players at the minimum this summer.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:32 am
by carey
Willie Hernangomez on the move.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/961273360100593665

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:36 am
by carey
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/961276082308747265 He didn't cost much.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:47 am
by Mori Chu
So sad about Porzingis. That is brutal for Knicks fans, who are super loyal and enthusiastic in supporting their team through many rough years. They deserve better. He probably won't even really be able to play at all next year. At least maybe they can have a full on tank next year and get a great pick, but that's a lot of losing ahead of them.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:24 am
by Cap
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:So sad about Porzingis. That is brutal for Knicks fans, who are super loyal and enthusiastic in supporting their team through many rough years.
I recall them booing the Porzingis pick quite vociferously.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:26 am
by carey
Don't think anyone is offering anything for Tyson.
https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/961289078095400965

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:36 am
by O_Gardino
carey wrote:Don't think anyone is offering anything for Tyson.
https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/961289078095400965
I just don't know what's in it for NYK. Like, don't they need WHG more than ever now? And aren't he and KP like super close bids?

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:57 am
by bajanguy008
https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/961308646620762112 I don't think Aldridge would have just randomly mentioned us....

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:05 pm
by JCSunsfan
bajanguy008 wrote:https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/961308646620762112 I don't think Aldridge would have just randomly mentioned us....
There arent that many teams with money this summer. We are one of them.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:06 pm
by iLLmatic
bajanguy008 wrote:https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/961308646620762112
I hate trying to decipher tweets.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:42 pm
by Shabazz
Jarrett Allen has been terrific lately.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:28 am
by bajanguy008
Shabazz wrote:Jarrett Allen has been terrific lately.
Yea seems to be showing more of his skill set every game since becoming the starter. Glad I scooped him in Fantasy :) 8-)

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:17 am
by JustWinBaby
I thought McDonough was building assets so that he could pull off some Danny Ainge type trade.

That statement was from 5 years ago.

What are our assets?

Where is the trade?

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:14 pm
by Ring_Wanted
JustWinBaby wrote:I thought McDonough was building assets so that he could pull off some Danny Ainge type trade.

That statement was from 5 years ago.

What are our assets?

Where is the trade?
If you want to punish yourself, imagine it was Griffin. Although many were not in favor.

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:43 pm
by bajanguy008
https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/961730888357818369

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:36 pm
by specialsauce
JustWinBaby wrote:I thought McDonough was building assets so that he could pull off some Danny Ainge type trade.

That statement was from 5 years ago.

What are our assets?

Where is the trade?
Dragan Bender and Marquese Chriss are our "assets" and we can't trade for a big time player yet because they aren't ready.

Secret is: they will never be ready to add a star with this group because this group blows and has no future outside of booker and jackson

Re: Around the League: Week 17 2/5-2/11

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:25 pm
by Cap
specialsauce wrote:
JustWinBaby wrote:I thought McDonough was building assets so that he could pull off some Danny Ainge type trade.

That statement was from 5 years ago.

What are our assets?

Where is the trade?
Dragan Bender and Marquese Chriss are our "assets" and we can't trade for a big time player yet because they aren't ready.

Secret is: they will never be ready to add a star with this group because this group blows and has no future outside of booker and jackson
Wait a sec...
specialsauce wrote:
Cap wrote:
Again, it's convenient to think that Kyrie would have been acquired and NO additional moves would have been made.
It's a reasonable assumption, because the proposed trade would have completely stripped us of assets. There'd be nothing left to trade.
That's not true. We'd still have the second of the Miami first rounders, our own first round pick this year, all the second round picks, TJ, Bender, Chriss.
Now personally, I agree with what you seem to be saying in this thread, that Bender and Chriss have very limited trade value at this point. I disagree with what you seem to be saying in that other thread, which is that Bender and Chriss have enough trade value that we could use them to build a "win now" team that Kyrie Irving would have good reason to sign with in 2019. What exactly are you trying to say? Both?