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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 5:29 pm
by Mori Chu
I can't believe we are sending a #4 pick to represent us at the draft in a year when the worst possible lottery outcome for us is to get the #4 pick. It's like we want to tempt fate.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 5:47 pm
by TOO
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:31 pm
by Superbone
Maybe there's a method to their madness. Maybe their theory is that #4 picks are like magnets with reversed polarity?
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:35 pm
by INFORMER
I'm so not fretting this as much as you guys are. I feel there are anywhere from 5-7 prospects that can improve this team significantly, so I think we're in good shape no matter what.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:52 pm
by Hermen
Not to pile on but when was the last time this team won anything in the lottery? Not the first pick, simply getting their ping-pong ball drawn (so top 3 picks currently).
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:12 pm
by Cap
Hermen wrote:Not to pile on but when was the last time this team won anything in the lottery? Not the first pick, simply getting their ping-pong ball drawn (so top 3 picks currently).
Or even gotten a coin flip to go our way for that matter?
The only time we’ve moved up in the lotto was 87 when we landed #2 and picked Armon Gilliam.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:22 pm
by Hermen
Cap wrote:Hermen wrote:Not to pile on but when was the last time this team won anything in the lottery? Not the first pick, simply getting their ping-pong ball drawn (so top 3 picks currently).
Or even gotten a coin flip to go our way for that matter?
The only time we’ve moved up in the lotto was 87 when we landed #2 and picked Armon Gilliam.
I did not even mean moving up (not necessarily). For example, getting the #2 or #3 this year would not be moving up but it would still mean our balls stood out.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:51 pm
by In2ition
Hermen wrote:Cap wrote:Hermen wrote:Not to pile on but when was the last time this team won anything in the lottery? Not the first pick, simply getting their ping-pong ball drawn (so top 3 picks currently).
Or even gotten a coin flip to go our way for that matter?
The only time we’ve moved up in the lotto was 87 when we landed #2 and picked Armon Gilliam.
I did not even mean moving up (not necessarily). For example, getting the #2 or #3 this year would not be moving up but it would still mean our balls stood out.
Yikes, that might be cause for avoiding schools, announcing yourself to your neighbors...
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:12 pm
by TOO
INFORMER wrote:I'm so not fretting this as much as you guys are. I feel there are anywhere from 5-7 prospects that can improve this team significantly, so I think we're in good shape no matter what.
I actually agree with you, just would like to win the lottery for winning the lottery sakes. I mean there is a very real possibility we do and still pick the wrong guy, so goes the NBA draft.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 11:54 pm
by Superbone
I just want a top 3 pick. Is that too much to ask?
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 12:23 am
by SDC
being #4 again is the worst case scenario. at least with #3, easier to trade up to #2 or #1 if you include the #16 pick or one of suns young players.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:51 am
by Mori Chu
Wasn't there some article or study showing that #2 picks are way, way worse than #1 picks?
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:17 am
by Hermen
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Wasn't there some article or study showing that #2 picks are way, way worse than #1 picks?
A few latest #1 vs #2:
Fultz < Ball
Simmons > Ingram
Towns > Russell
Wiggins ~ Parker
Bennett < Oladipo
Davis > MKG
Irving > Derrick Williams
Wall > Evan Turner
Griffin > Thabeet
Rose > Beasley
Oden < Durant
Bargnani < Aldridge
Bogut > Marv Williams
Howard > Okafor
James > Milicic
I'm not sure what made people choose MKG, Derrick, Turner, Thabeet, but other than that brutal stretch it seems alright.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:52 am
by Cap
Hermen wrote:Cap wrote:Hermen wrote:Not to pile on but when was the last time this team won anything in the lottery? Not the first pick, simply getting their ping-pong ball drawn (so top 3 picks currently).
Or even gotten a coin flip to go our way for that matter?
The only time we’ve moved up in the lotto was 87 when we landed #2 and picked Armon Gilliam.
I did not even mean moving up (not necessarily). For example, getting the #2 or #3 this year would not be moving up but it would still mean our balls stood out.
No. Since the lottery went to the top-three format in ’87, Gilliam is the only time our balls (or balls we had via trade) came up.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:13 am
by JCSunsfan
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I can't believe we are sending a #4 pick to represent us at the draft in a year when the worst possible lottery outcome for us is to get the #4 pick. It's like we want to tempt fate.
I am resigned to the #4 pick. As a Suns fan, I do not know what anything else but disappointment feel like at lottery time. All that tanking was so that we could not pick worse than #4
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:47 am
by Superbone
JCSunsfan wrote:Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I can't believe we are sending a #4 pick to represent us at the draft in a year when the worst possible lottery outcome for us is to get the #4 pick. It's like we want to tempt fate.
I am resigned to the #4 pick. As a Suns fan, I do not know what anything else but disappointment feel like at lottery time. All that tanking was so that we could not pick worse than #4
It is smart to expect it so you can't be disappointed on lottery day. But let's be honest, you'll still be a little disappointed.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:49 am
by Superbone
5/8 - OK, now I'm scaring myself. 1st on the 1st attempt today.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:56 am
by JCSunsfan
Superbone wrote:JCSunsfan wrote:Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I can't believe we are sending a #4 pick to represent us at the draft in a year when the worst possible lottery outcome for us is to get the #4 pick. It's like we want to tempt fate.
I am resigned to the #4 pick. As a Suns fan, I do not know what anything else but disappointment feel like at lottery time. All that tanking was so that we could not pick worse than #4
It is smart to expect it so you can't be disappointed on lottery day. But let's be honest, you'll still be a little disappointed.
I EXPECT to be disappointed. It is a Suns fan's lot in life at the lottery.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:07 pm
by Superbone
JCSunsfan wrote:Superbone wrote:JCSunsfan wrote:Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I can't believe we are sending a #4 pick to represent us at the draft in a year when the worst possible lottery outcome for us is to get the #4 pick. It's like we want to tempt fate.
I am resigned to the #4 pick. As a Suns fan, I do not know what anything else but disappointment feel like at lottery time. All that tanking was so that we could not pick worse than #4
It is smart to expect it so you can't be disappointed on lottery day. But let's be honest, you'll still be a little disappointed.
I EXPECT to be disappointed. It is a Suns fan's lot in life at the lottery.
That's stinkin' thinkin'.
We are due for a little lottery luck.
Re: 2018 NBA Draft Lottery
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:22 pm
by Cap
If the Cavs jump us in the lottery, I fucking quit.
