Game Day: Raptors (7-1) @ Suns (1-6), Fri 11/2/18

[Superbone]

Last year we had 4 wins in our first 8 games. There will always be younguns to watch, but this year is worse because we aren't competitive.

Exactly.

[Superbone]

I’m still pretty confident that this team can turn it around, at least to the point where we’re consistently competitive. There’s a lot of work to do, though.

That's all I ask at this point. And make it look like they give a Markieff.

[Superbone]

It is really draining to give 10-12 hours a week to a team that only ends up leading for about 12 minutes a week.

And makes a bunch of bad turnovers, let's defenders waltz to the hoop, and shows no passion. It makes me angry. I thought we had hit rock bottom last season. Nope. Turns out I was wrong.

You think this is worse than last year? Last year I felt there was almost no reason to watch. Right now I can at least watch Ayton grow and the other youngs like Bridges and Okobo to see what potential they may have. The occasional TJ Warren blowup is also fun at times. The tiny flashes from Josh Jackson amid the larger mass of awful play. There are bright spots.

Last year I felt nothing; I watched as an obligation, but the team wasn't even trying or hoping to win. It was much worse than this IMO.

If you are talking about the last 2 months of the season, sure. But watching Booker last year was pretty great. This season has probably been worse for me because he missed half our games so far, and his awful defense seems compounded when we are already down 20 by the 2nd quarter nearly every game.

Yeah, that probably hurts more than anything. Not being able to watch Booker. It will be good to have him back. Hopefully he and Ayton can give us hope again.

[Superbone]

Let's hope Devin gets a nice nap in today:

[TOO]

Let's hope Devin gets a nice nap in today:

He's probably secretly hoping he sleeps through the whoopin we're about to get.

[Indy]

I’m still pretty confident that this team can turn it around, at least to the point where we’re consistently competitive. There’s a lot of work to do, though.

Meaning we are rarely down by double digits in a game, and winning nearly half our games? Or do you mean more competitive than we have been so far this year?

I’d take either at this point, but I thought this was about a 32-win team before the season started and my opinion hasn’t changed much. So to answer your question, much more competitive but only winning about 35-40% of our games.

As constructed, or with some moves?

[Xylus]

As constructed, assuming our best players are healthy

[Shabazz]

Not sure why we'd start Canaan. He adds nothing.

[Superbone]

Not sure why we'd start Canaan. He adds nothing.

Experience is all he has on the rookies. Not saying that's the reason to start him. I'm not sure if it makes a difference, to be honest.

[Shabazz]

Not sure why we'd start Canaan. He adds nothing.

Experience is all he has on the rookies. Not saying that's the reason to start him. I'm not sure if it makes a difference, to be honest.

Chandler has experience on Ayton.

Okobo is already better than Canaan. Start him. And for the love of god, trade for someone better than either already.

[Ring_Wanted]

Heh. The first East team we face and it's a top2-3. The schedule nightmare keeps going.

Yeah, I miss those competitive games against New Zealand and Brisbane.

hahaha

Many saw a red flag when PHX couldn't dominate a marginal team, but most couldn't realize it. Summer league was brutal too. Bender and Jackson showed that they had nothing to offer. It was appaling. And the actual season gave us a collective high after the first game but we have crashed hard afterwards and the cold turkey is killing PHX fans by the bunch.

[da_suns_fan]

Josh Jacksons first seven games numbers absolutely brutal:

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/ ... sh-jackson

[da_suns_fan]

He's also in last place for wins produced thus far in the season:

https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players?s ... ection=asc

[Ring_Wanted]

He is being even more harmful than Knight ever was.

[bajanguy008]

https://twitter.com/WolstatSun/status/1058523412056817664 For those hoping, this will not be one of Kawhi's rest nights so Book gonna have his hands full. Van Vleet also back after missing a couple games

[Xylus]

Tonight’s lineup:
Canaan
Booker
Ariza
Warren
Ayton

[Big Jake Little Jake]

He is being even more harmful than Knight ever was.

Man, this is brutal but completely true. Hopefully he can turn it around.

[JeremyG]

Josh Jacksons first seven games numbers absolutely brutal:

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/ ... sh-jackson

How do you shoot 36% from the free throw line? Do we need to bring in Shaquille O'Neal to teach him how to improve his free throw shooting?

[In2ition]

I'm not too happy about Canaan being in the starting lineup, but at least it won't be for long I suppose.

What's the line on the date that the Suns finally make a move for a starting caliber pg?

[JeremyG]

I'm not too happy about Canaan being in the starting lineup, but at least it won't be for long I suppose.

What's the line on the date that the Suns finally make a move for a starting caliber pg?

I never would have guessed last spring that on November 2, our starting point guard would still be Isaiah Canaan. This is like some sort of nightmare, only it's real life.