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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:44 am

After the Miami game tonight, every home game we have is against a team that is either in the top 8 of their conference, or above .500.

It's still nuts to me that basically all 14 of the other Western teams are around .500 or better and are plausible contenders to make the playoffs, except for us. We stick out for our futility and commitment to losing.

I agree with half of that. We are not committed to losing. We just keep doing it. Which proves our futility.

Indy wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:33 am

I agree with half of that. We are not committed to losing. We just keep doing it. Which proves our futility.

Absolutely. These fools wanted to win yet entered the season with no PG and no viable PF. There are tanking jobs with better roster management.

Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:59 am

Indy wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:33 am

I agree with half of that. We are not committed to losing. We just keep doing it. Which proves our futility.

Absolutely. These fools wanted to win yet entered the season with no PG and no viable PF. There are tanking jobs with better roster management.

The teams that are tanking this year have 50% more wins than the Suns.

It's too bad they couldn't have waited one more year to change the draft lottery structure, lol.

Our answers to this poll would have been much different had we known our top two scorers would miss significant time.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:15 pm

Our answers to this poll would have been much different had we known our top two scorers would miss significant time.

TJ misses an average of 25-30 games per year. Booker has clearly not been healthy all year, and we all know how hamstring injuries can go. I don't think it was a stretch to think they would miss time.

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:51 am

If the Suns can't win half of these games, I'm going to be pretty ticked off. This is a patsy schedule compared to the first 20 games.

0-6 so far.....

they'll need to do no better than 3-12 the rest of this quarter for my prediction to be right. Seems doable, if not likely.

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:30 am

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:51 am

If the Suns can't win half of these games, I'm going to be pretty ticked off. This is a patsy schedule compared to the first 20 games.

0-6 so far.....

they'll need to do no better than 3-12 the rest of this quarter for my prediction to be right. Seems doable, if not likely.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:15 pm

Our answers to this poll would have been much different had we known our top two scorers would miss significant time.

Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.

We need to go 5-6 over the next 11 games to reach the 11-13 bracket.

Feels so nice to have Booker back and win two in a row. Let's hope the new trade pieces don't come in and screw up the nice chemistry we've had lately.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:48 pm

Feels so nice to have Booker back and win two in a row. Let's hope the new trade pieces don't come in and screw up the nice chemistry we've had lately.

That's what terrifies me. It went from seeming like it couldn't get any worse so might as well make the trade, to not wanting to screw things up, pretty quickly lol.

9 games left!


##__Game Date__Opponent
21__Nov 28 2018__@Los Angeles Clippers
22__Nov 30 2018__vs Orlando Magic
23__Dec 2 2018__@Los Angeles Lakers
24__Dec 4 2018__Sacramento Kings
25__Dec 6 2018__@Portland Trail Blazers
26__Dec 7 2018__Miami Heat
27__Dec 10 2018__Los Angeles Clippers
28__Dec 11 2018__@San Antonio Spurs
29__Dec 13 2018__Dallas Mavericks
30__Dec 15 2018__Minnesota Timberwolves
31__Dec 17 2018__@New York Knicks
32__Dec 19 2018__@Boston Celtics
33__Dec 22 2018__@Washington Wizards
34__Dec 23 2018__@Brooklyn Nets
35__Dec 26 2018__@Orlando Magic
36__Dec 28 2018__Oklahoma City Thunder
37__Dec 29 2018__Denver Nuggets
38__Dec 31 2018__Golden State Warriors
39__Jan 2 2019__Philadelphia 76ers
40__Jan 4 2019__Los Angeles Clippers
41__Jan 6 2019__Charlotte Hornets

So 9-32. Nobody got that right...

##__Game Date__Opponent
21__Nov 28 2018__@Los Angeles Clippers
22__Nov 30 2018__vs Orlando Magic
23__Dec 2 2018__@Los Angeles Lakers
24__Dec 4 2018__Sacramento Kings
25__Dec 6 2018__@Portland Trail Blazers
26__Dec 7 2018__Miami Heat
27__Dec 10 2018__Los Angeles Clippers
28__Dec 11 2018__@San Antonio Spurs
29__Dec 13 2018__Dallas Mavericks
30__Dec 15 2018__Minnesota Timberwolves
31__Dec 17 2018__@New York Knicks
32__Dec 19 2018__@Boston Celtics
33__Dec 22 2018__@Washington Wizards
34__Dec 23 2018__@Brooklyn Nets
35__Dec 26 2018__@Orlando Magic
36__Dec 28 2018__Oklahoma City Thunder
37__Dec 29 2018__Denver Nuggets
38__Dec 31 2018__Golden State Warriors
39__Jan 2 2019__Philadelphia 76ers
40__Jan 4 2019__Los Angeles Clippers
41__Jan 6 2019__Charlotte Hornets

Mike D'Antoni [2003-08] - 253-136, .650
Terry Porter [2008-09] - 28-23, .549
Alvin Gentry [2009-13] - 158-144, .523
Jeff Hornacek [2013-16] - 101-112, .474
Earl Watson [2016-17] - 33-85, .280
Jay Triano [2017-18] - 21-58, .266
Igor Kokoskov [2018-19] - 11-35 .239

I wonder if there has ever been another team which has made six straight coaching changes that resulted in a worse W-L record....

the clippers maybe? I can't remember.

I found an instance where they had four straight declines -

Larry Brown - .500
Bob Weiss - .329
Bill Fitch - .302
Chris Ford - .211
Jim Todd - .108 (interim coach only)
Alvin Gentry - .401

It is so disappointing that we can't make good decisions anywhere in our business. Of those 6 coaches after Mike, 2 were given less than a full season (Porter, Triano) and Watson was just a season and a half. Don't get me wrong, they were all not the right coach, but how do you consistently make such bad decisions on hiring what is likely the most (or co-most) important decision you have in the org?

This is the definition of a bad franchise -

General Managers since 2006 - Mike D'Antoni, Steve Kerr, Lance Blanks, Lon Babby, Ryan McDonough, James Jones
Experience before being hired by Phoenix - D'Antoni, 1 month. Everyone else, none.

Head Coaches since 2008 - Terry Porter, Alvin Gentry, Jeff Hornacek, Earl Watson, Jay Triano, Igor Kokoskov
Experience before being hired by Phoenix - Porter, 2 seasons; Gentry, 7 seasons; Triano 3 seasons; Hornacek, Watson and Kokoskov, none. (all were inexpensive hires)

First round draft choices since 2003 - Zarko Cabarkapa, Luol Deng (traded for a future draft pick - Nate Robinson), Nate Robinson (traded in the Kurt Thomas trade), Rajon Rondo (traded for a future draft pick - Serio Rodriguez), Sergio Rodriguez (sold after draft), Rudy Fernandez (sold after the draft), Alando Tucker, Robin Lopez, Earl Clark, Markieff Morris, Kendall Marshall, Alex Len, Memanja Nedovic (traded in the Archie Goodwin trade), T.J. Warren, Tyler Ennis, Bogdan Bogdanovic (traded in the Marquese Chriss trade), Devin Booker, Dragan Bender, Georgios Papagiannis (traded in the Marquese Chriss trade), Skal Labissiere (traded in the Marquese Chriss trade), Josh Jackson, Deandre Ayton, Zhaire Smith (traded in the Mikal Bridges trade)

Major trades and free agent signings since 2006 (by General Manager) -

D'ANTONI [2006-07]
2006 - Trade draft rights to Rajon Rondo for a future #1 pick (Rudy Fernandez)
2006 - Sell draft rights to Sergio Rodriguez
2006 - Signed Marcus Banks as a free agent

KERR [2007-10]
2007 - Sign Grant Hill as a free agent
2007 - Sell draft rights to Rudy Fernandez
2007 - Trade Kurt Thomas and two future #1 picks (Serge Ibaka and Quincy Pondexter) for a future #2 pick
2008 - Trade Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks for Shaquille O'Neal
2008 - Trade Malik Hairston and a future #2 pick for Goran Dragic
2008 - Sign Matt Barnes as a free agent
2008 - Trade Raja Bell and Boris Diaw for Jason Richardson and Jared Dudley
2009 - Trade Shaquille O'Neal for Ben Wallace (waive Wallace)
2009 - Sign Channing Frye as a free agent

NO GENERAL MAGNAGER [Summer, 2010]
2010 - Trade Leandro Barbosa for Hedo Turkoglu
2010 - Trade a #2 pick for Hakim Warrick
2010 - Sign Josh Childress as a free agent

BLANKS [2010-13]
2010 - Trade Earl Clark, Jason Richardson and Hedo Turkoglu for Marcin Gortat, Vince Carter and a future #1 pick (Nikola Mirotic)
2011 - Trade Goran Dragic and a future #1 pick (Nikola Mirotic) for Aaron Brooks
2012 - Trade Steve Nash for two future #1 picks (Nemanja Nedovic, Mikal Bridges)
2012 - Sign Luis Scola as a free agent
2012 - Sign Goran Dragic as a free agent
2012 - Sign Michael Beasley as a free agent
2012 - Trade Robin Lopez and Hakim Warrick for Wesley Johnson, Brad Miller and two #2 picks (waive Miller)
2012 - Sign P.J. Tucker as a free agent

BABBY [2013]
None

McDONOUGH [2013-19]
2013 - Trade Jared Dudley for Eric Bledsoe
2013 - Trade Luis Scola for Gerald Green and Miles Plumlee
2013 - Trade Marcin Gortat, Shannon Brown and Kendall Marshall for Emeka Okafor and a future #1 pick (Tyler Ennis)
2014 - Trade the rights to Alex Oriakhi for Isaiah Thomas
2015 - Trade two #2 picks for Brandan Wright
2015 - Trade a future #1 pick (Mikal Bridges), Tyler Ennis and Miles Plumlee for Brandon Knight
2015 - Trade Isaiah Thomas for Marcus Thornton and a future #1 pick (Skal Labissiere)
2016 - Trade Markieff Morris for Kris Humphries and a future #1 pick (Georgios Papagiannis)
2016 - Trade the rights to Bogdan Bogdanovic, Georgios Papagiannis and Skal Labissiere for the rights to Marquese Chriss
2017 - Trade P.J. Tucker for two future #2 picks
2017 - Trade Eric Bledsoe to Milwaukee for Greg Monroe and a future #1 pick
2018 - Trade the draft rights to Zhaire Smith and a future #1 pick for the draft rights to Mikal Bridges
2018 - Trade Marquese Chriss and Brandon Knight for Ryan Anderson and De'Anthony Melton

JONES
None

damn you bobster