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Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:46 pm
by iLLmatic
https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/status/485975410099093504
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:16 pm
by ShelC
Well if LeBron leaves, at least the Heat drafted Shabazz Napier to soften the blow.
Also..let's say Bosh goes to Houston, LeBron goes to Cleveland...could we see Wade go to Chicago? Riley would really be left with nothing down there. A ton of cap space, but who could he sign?
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:18 pm
by iLLmatic
Pau Gasol...
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:52 pm
by carey
Ha. If all that happens then I see Riley retiring on the spot, like "fuck this." lol.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:05 pm
by SDC
iLLmatic wrote:Pau Gasol...
what's wrong with gasol?
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:06 pm
by SDC
have you seen these vids? elfrid payton and marcus smart starting.
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Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:07 pm
by SDC
more vids
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Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:14 pm
by SDC
the risk with going to cleveland is that
a) ill tempered david blatt and lebron might not work
b) the team may not be good enough to make it to the finals in the east. too young, no vets.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:41 pm
by iLLmatic
SDC wrote:iLLmatic wrote:Pau Gasol...
what's wrong with gasol?
He's a shitty consolation prize for Lebron?
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:45 pm
by TOO
More like a consolation turd, he's nobodies prize now.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:23 pm
by Gladiator
SDC wrote:iLLmatic wrote:Pau Gasol...
what's wrong with gasol?
From what I've seen, he's noticably slowing down, can't defend well and only plays hard when he gets the ball what he deems enough and in the right spots.
He is still a brilliant passer and talented offensive player, however.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:17 am
by SDC
iLLmatic wrote:SDC wrote:iLLmatic wrote:Pau Gasol...
what's wrong with gasol?
He's a shitty consolation prize for Lebron?
funny. if we keep the team intact and signed pau for 12 mil (1yr deal), we have good shot against san antonio next season
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:28 am
by Ring_Wanted
ShelC wrote:I think they're blowing it. They're going after names instead of reloading with young talent that can play off of the stars. They need some swings to take the onus off of Wade and LeBron, but more than anything, they need bigs. Let's say they have 12mil to spend. Why go after Deng for 10 or Marvin Williams for 7-8? Get a bunch of young, athletic guys on the cheap. For 12 mil, they can get James Johnson who can play 3 positions, Ed Davis for the 4/5, Al Farouq Aminu for 3/4. You can get all 3 for 4 mil each, if not less. They may not be huge names or proven veterans, but they've all played in the league, proven themselves at the NBA level and do things the Heat need.
Hell, for that 12 mil, they could've had Hawes and Patrick Patterson at 6 each, both of whom would've helped a ton.
Would the friends want to take a paycut for that kind of players? I wouldn't be surprised if they see it as having to groom them for contention, which would be far from desirable given their age and pressure to win every title.
I think Riley has also had a degree of bad luck, along with miscalculation. This years role players are getting 6+easily. That's half of his plausible cap space, unless the friends made a brutal sacrifice. To the tune of LeBron 18M, Bosh 10M, Wade 7.5M, which would give Miami ~20M of space.
Maybe a better way for the Heat would be trading cap space for role players under contract. Look at the Novaks of the L.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:28 am
by iLLmatic
SDC wrote:iLLmatic wrote:SDC wrote:iLLmatic wrote:Pau Gasol...
what's wrong with gasol?
He's a shitty consolation prize for Lebron?
funny. if we keep the team intact and signed pau for 12 mil (1yr deal), we have good shot against san antonio next season
I wouldn't mind Gasol instead of Bosh if we were to convince Lebron to sign on the dotted line.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:47 am
by Ring_Wanted
I'd prefer Pau to Bosh for those Suns, I'm telling you.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:31 am
by Aztec Sunsfan
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Would the friends want to take a paycut for that kind of players? I wouldn't be surprised if they see it as having to groom them for contention, which would be far from desirable given their age and pressure to win every title.
I think Riley has also had a degree of bad luck, along with miscalculation. This years role players are getting 6+easily. That's half of his plausible cap space, unless the friends made a brutal sacrifice. To the tune of LeBron 18M, Bosh 10M, Wade 7.5M, which would give Miami ~20M of space.
Maybe a better way for the Heat would be trading cap space for role players under contract. Look at the Novaks of the L.
In order to do that, they have to give up the Bird rights of either of the Nice 3. Wade would be the most likely given his probable new contract, but at the same time he is the closer "sure thing" among those three to resign, so it could alienate him and backfire terribly.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:38 am
by TOO
Am I seriously the only person who saw Houston as a Bosh suitor before the whole Melo thing? I dont know why all of the media is so surprised. He's from Dallas for goodness sakes, max money in your home state = obvious connection here.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:39 am
by ShelC
Why is Bosh still considered a max player? Houston's offering 96mil over 4 years. Really? Is he the one that's going to get them over the hump?
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:45 am
by In2ition
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Am I seriously the only person who saw Houston as a Bosh suitor before the whole Melo thing? I dont know why all of the media is so surprised. He's from Dallas for goodness sakes, max money in your home state = obvious connection here.
Good call, and seems to be a good match for Bosh. He doesn't have to guard Centers any more, keeps space, would really play well off of Harden and Howard. I also think he would improve their interior defense to help out their perimeter defenders. Howard would have to bounce back defensively to really help them.
Re: Around the League: July 2014
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:47 am
by TOO
I dont know what Bosh is anymore, I dont know if he was just playing a role in Miami or he has regressed. He's still shown flashes of brilliance in his 4 years there, but he is sort of a puzzle now. He could still be a 20/10 guy IMO, if, and its a pretty sizable if, he's still motivated. I'd be worried about maxing a fat happy Bosh.