Cap's DC movie ideas

[Superbone]

I'm trying to conduct a cinematic experiment with different versions for different audiences. This isn't the Politics folder so let's avoid discussing the merits of the issues, but discuss how politically-oriented audiences might react to the movies.

The hope is that when the movie first comes out, reviewers on the left will praise the climate change parable and the ecological message, while anti-woke commentators rail against every aspect of the film in every way they can think of in YouTube reviews longer than the movie, and anti-anti-woke commentators tell them, "Get a life, it's a movie, if you don't like it don't watch it." You may have seen this scenario play out before.

Then a "The Rest of the Story" version comes out reflecting a more patriotic worldview. We get to see who on the left has a sense of humor and who mimics the ragers they were just mocking. People can make a statement by which version(s) they buy.

A story with a multiverse approach to story telling…. I kind of feel we’re going to be heading that way with entertainment and A.I. Probably 5 years away I bet.

Can you imagine? You go to the theater and you get to choose which version of the movie you want to watch? Left leaning or conservative leaning?

[Kryptonic]

I'm trying to conduct a cinematic experiment with different versions for different audiences. This isn't the Politics folder so let's avoid discussing the merits of the issues, but discuss how politically-oriented audiences might react to the movies.

The hope is that when the movie first comes out, reviewers on the left will praise the climate change parable and the ecological message, while anti-woke commentators rail against every aspect of the film in every way they can think of in YouTube reviews longer than the movie, and anti-anti-woke commentators tell them, "Get a life, it's a movie, if you don't like it don't watch it." You may have seen this scenario play out before.

Then a "The Rest of the Story" version comes out reflecting a more patriotic worldview. We get to see who on the left has a sense of humor and who mimics the ragers they were just mocking. People can make a statement by which version(s) they buy.

A story with a multiverse approach to story telling…. I kind of feel we’re going to be heading that way with entertainment and A.I. Probably 5 years away I bet.

Can you imagine? You go to the theater and you get to choose which version of the movie you want to watch? Left leaning or conservative leaning?

As is we all choose to consume and read what information we want and all live in our own realities…. I think it’s just fine tuning your media to your algorithm

[Cap]

I'm trying to conduct a cinematic experiment with different versions for different audiences. This isn't the Politics folder so let's avoid discussing the merits of the issues, but discuss how politically-oriented audiences might react to the movies.

The hope is that when the movie first comes out, reviewers on the left will praise the climate change parable and the ecological message, while anti-woke commentators rail against every aspect of the film in every way they can think of in YouTube reviews longer than the movie, and anti-anti-woke commentators tell them, "Get a life, it's a movie, if you don't like it don't watch it." You may have seen this scenario play out before.

Then a "The Rest of the Story" version comes out reflecting a more patriotic worldview. We get to see who on the left has a sense of humor and who mimics the ragers they were just mocking. People can make a statement by which version(s) they buy.

A story with a multiverse approach to story telling…. I kind of feel we’re going to be heading that way with entertainment and A.I. Probably 5 years away I bet.

It’s not a multiverse. One universe, with the home-video-only extended edition being of debatable canonicity. Nothing in the extended edition flat out contradicts anything in the theatrical version, which is included in the extended version in its entirety. It contradicts things Jor-El and other scientists say in the theatrical version, because the extended edition reveals them to be liars.

The only multiverse here is that the movies exist in an alternate reality, not in ours, because I can’t get them made in this reality, except maybe in the AI movies-to-order future I described elsewhere:

I think we’re going to see a shift to “made to order” movies. The day will come when AIs can write screenplays better, faster and cheaper than any human. And going on location with cameras and sound equipment and actors and props and makeup and wardrobe and lighting and everything? Forget it, the AI just has to imagine it and it appears on screen. You just tell the computer what kind of movie you want and the computer makes it.

But I don’t get to play with the wider audience that way.

[Cap]

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[Cap]

The fourth film is Superman.

Instead of an ultra-confident superhero "disguised as mild-mannered reporter Clark Kent," mild-mannered reporter Clark Kent is his real personality. He's just living his life as a somewhat geeky science reporter for the Daily Planet, with no intention of being a superhero or revealing his presence to the world, until a terrorist attack on Metropolis forces him to reveal himself to save millions of lives.

When news gets out that a Kryptonian on Earth has superpowers, it's not long before Zod shows up with friends and claims the planet for himself. (The "nobody leaves the planet" hypocrites from the first film actually bailed. Not much of a twist, is it?) Superman tries to fight them off and does better than could reasonably be expected, but it's three battle-hardened warriors against someone who has literally never been in a fight in his life, and he is defeated.

In the end, Luthor defeats Zod, seizes his ship and imprisons him. (How? I'll tell you later.) He also saves the lives of Superman and Lois Lane, and restores the Fortress of Solitude (including Jor-El and Lara) after it seemed to be irrecoverably destroyed. He ends the film in possession of Zod and Zod's ship, with the whole world hailing him as their savior and Superman (figuratively) kissing his ring. This guy is going to be formidable.

Misc. notes:

• The glasses are initially not a disguise. They filter out wavelengths that humans can't see and add a little distortion so that he sees the world like humans do and doesn't react to things they can't see. When he wants to use his X-ray vision or read a newspaper headline from a half mile away, he takes the glasses off.
• An age-old question is, how does Superman cut his hair? In my world, controlling the length of his hair is one of his super powers. Clark Kent has a full mustache and beard. Superman is clean shaven and has shorter hair than Kent.
• After Superman saves Metropolis, Lois Lane is the first to meet him in person. She quickly realizes that he is Clark Kent, whom she knows from the Planet. She works with him to invent the Superman personality and coaches him to play the part so others don’t figure out the secret and so the public feels comfortable with him having so much power. Teaching a meek guy like Clark to act convincingly like an alien god with an unwavering determination to do the right thing and the knowledge that he always can isn’t easy, especially when there’s no consensus about what “the right thing” is, but they manage. At least until Zod kicks his butt.

To be continued...

[Kryptonic]

So far sounds pretty good! I like the Luther savior, and supes not being overpowered from the get go.

[Cap]

So far sounds pretty good! I like the Luther savior, and supes not being overpowered from the get go.

This is a Luthor who realizes that, at least in the early days, he can amass more power by working with the superheroes than working against them and having to be defeated at the end of every movie. No fighting against superheroes until he's strong enough to take them on.

[Cap]

After Clark disappears during a crisis with no explanation (he was busy saving millions of lives), Perry White is ready to fire him. (“This was the Kobayashi Maru and everybody here aced it except the biggest Trek nerd I know.”) Clark is valuable to Lois because she’s working on a story on Lex Luthor who grew up with him in Smallville, so she intervenes on his behalf and saves his job.

When Lois learns and keeps Clark/Superman’s secret, she is sitting on the biggest story of her career so far, but her relationship with him will lead her to bigger stories later. Besides, she likes (and will come to love) him.

[Cap]

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[Cap]

Sigh. I thought something that provocative would elicit a few reactions.

At least it got a like.

Justice League tomorrow…

[Cap]

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[Kryptonic]

Your iteration of Batman reminds me of Zack Snyders. As much hate as it got, I liked it and felt it was more victim of marvel establishing a solid fan base and since the DC universe was darker, critics/fans didn’t like it. Henry cavill shouldn’t have been recast either. He’s a solid supes.

Will be pretty cool in a few years when you can have AI take what you wrote and just have it make a movie for you. How would you cast it? Also with the time travel aspect…. Something you could do that could address it being there without going crosseyed trying to follow plot holes…. Maybe have something in the first movie that’s maybe an afterthought but come the flash movie you realize he was the one that set up something in the first movie. All in all…. I dig what you’ve done and appreciate you taking the time sharing your fanfiction.

[Cap]

If AI is making it, I could cast Christopher Reeve, Marlon Brando and Terrence Stamp. Heh. And I like Ezra Miller’s Flash. But I haven’t really thought about casting.

I’m not sure how satisfying it would be to have AI make the movies for me. A big part of what I enjoy about these ideas is the way I imagine them playing with the audience. If the wider public isn’t seeing it, it loses a lot.

[Superbone]

The day AI makes a good movie, is the day...

I don't know. You fill in the rest. I'd be surprised if I ever saw one in my lifetime.

[Superbone]

Here's AI's current take on jazz music:

[Cap]

The day AI makes a good movie, is the day...

I don't know. You fill in the rest. I'd be surprised if I ever saw one in my lifetime.

…when I say goodbye?
…when I make you cry?
…when you die?

[Cap]

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[Kryptonic]

Interesting… I usually find it off-putting to have political themes in comics/fantasy entertainment.