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Re: Suns News: Week 14 1/26-2/1
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:48 am
by Sunsfan4life
Ugh. Its certainly not good news, but lets not rush to judgement. I highly doubt he just beat down someone without there being more to it then that.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 1/26-2/1
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:54 am
by INFORMER
Shabazz wrote:It's also recognizing achievement and not potential and Adams and Dieng have been doing well for a little longer than Len has, despite the fact that Len's upside is probably higher.
Exactly.
Shabazz wrote:It's hard to expect the coaches who probably don't give a shit about this to consider splits like "per-36 minutes as a starter."
Why should they? Only on Planet Orange is the predominant language lingo like "woulda coulda shoulda...well during this stretch of games we were really good...if you remove these games, this player has done very well...if you project these stats out then..." Sometimes, it just needs to be about what a team or player has actually done.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 1/26-2/1
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:56 am
by INFORMER
Ring_Wanted wrote:On the bright side (for those who find his 5M so unreasonable)
Not unreasonable; unnecessary and ill-advised.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 1/26-2/1
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:11 am
by SDC
if mcdo is going to trade one of the twins, do it AFTER the season.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 1/26-2/1
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:16 am
by ShelC
Get rid of them both. Sick of their nonsense. We should've never gone down this path. Feels like we've been enabling them since we traded for Marcus. And for all the talk of Markieff and his numbers and his clutch play, he's still a bench bigman. He's not a starter on a contending team.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 1/26-2/1
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:09 am
by carey
My problem is that this incident, combined with the technicals & constant barking on the court paints a troubling picture for these guys. We have a lot of impressionable young guys on the team. We need to be very careful how we tread here.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 1/26-2/1
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:30 am
by SDC
carey wrote:My problem is that this incident, combined with the technicals & constant barking on the court paints a troubling picture for these guys. We have a lot of impressionable young guys on the team. We need to be very careful how we tread here.
and they are not getting any playing time.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 1/26-2/1
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:01 am
by Ring_Wanted
INFORMER wrote:Ring_Wanted wrote:On the bright side (for those who find his 5M so unreasonable)
Not unreasonable; unnecessary and ill-advised.
Semantics. We both mean the same; contract that shouldn't exist, at least on Suns' books.
Re: Suns News: Week 14 1/26-2/1
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:22 am
by Ring_Wanted
For lovers of a let's say semicontroled blow up:
Suns out: Kieff, Marcus, PJ, IT3, Ennis, Miles.
Suns in: Vonleh, Stauskas, Psycho T, TOR 1stR.
Teams and who gets what. And why, if possible. Suns included, of course.
Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:06 am
by Mori Chu
Making this its own thread since it seems like potentially big news.
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:44 am
by In2ition
I think that the twins need to be addressed, either by a trade or something. You just can't paint yourself into the corner and get pennies on the dollar for them by trading them for whatever. Do it smart, get some value back, otherwise the trade comes back to bite you in the a$$.
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:09 am
by Mori Chu
Maybe we should wait for the facts to come out before deciding to trade away arguably our best player.
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:14 am
by carey
Mori Chu wrote:Maybe we should wait for the facts to come out before deciding to trade away arguably our best player.
Are people really suggesting he's our best player because Simmons put him as our most valuable? The two aren't really the same. His best asset is his consistency & his clutch performance this year taken in conjunction with his contract. I would not call him our best player. Certainly Goran & Eric are better, and IT is probably neck & neck with him at the least.
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:18 am
by Indy
carey wrote:Mori Chu wrote:Maybe we should wait for the facts to come out before deciding to trade away arguably our best player.
Are people really suggesting he's our best player because Simmons put him as our most valuable? The two aren't really the same. His best asset is his consistency & his clutch performance this year taken in conjunction with his contract. I would not call him our best player. Certainly Goran & Eric are better, and IT is probably neck & neck with him at the least.
I wouldn't put IT close to him. I would agree that those 3 (1, 2, 11) are the top three talented people on our team. I am not sure who is best, or who is the best fit for our team. But my gut tells me Goran.
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:59 am
by Sunsfan4life
Mori Chu wrote:Maybe we should wait for the facts to come out before deciding to trade away arguably our best player.
Agreed. Innocent until proven guilty. I don't believe the Morris Twins have had trouble with the law before, so there is probably alot more to it. People lumping this with them getting technical is pretty ridiculous...This is a far far far more serious charge.
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:17 am
by Kerrsed
Mr. ORNG wrote:Morris Twins UPDATE!!! Many of you have asked me what is known about the news that CBS released last night. While they did not say much besides and investigation was taking place that could have involved the Morris brothers, I wanted to share what I know from my sources. This past Saturday there was a basketball function at a gym in Phoenix and the Morris brothers were in attendance, since they knew one of the coaches. It is alleged that at one point the twins chased a guy outside by the soccer field and Marcus got into a physical altercation with a male. Someone close to the situation states that Markieff was not involved in the altercation, but just kept the few people that came around back and that Marcus was the one involved in the physical altercation. It is said that the male ended up going to the hospital following the altercation. It is also said that police are investigating the situation. I have been told that a personal matter is what led to this alleged altercation.
https://www.facebook.com/mrorng
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:37 am
by LazarusLong
Echoing Mori and Suns/Life, let's not organize a lynching party until we know the documented facts about what happened. I'm not a huge fan of the twins, but I'm also not a huge fan of trial by rumor, innuendo and social media blather.
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:19 pm
by Mori Chu
The interesting thing will be if one of the brothers becomes implicated in something but the other doesn't. We always think of them as a package deal, but what if one of them does something that the Suns don't want to be associated with? Hmm...
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:19 pm
by carey
Kerrsed wrote:Mr. ORNG wrote:Morris Twins UPDATE!!! Many of you have asked me what is known about the news that CBS released last night. While they did not say much besides and investigation was taking place that could have involved the Morris brothers, I wanted to share what I know from my sources. This past Saturday there was a basketball function at a gym in Phoenix and the Morris brothers were in attendance, since they knew one of the coaches. It is alleged that at one point the twins chased a guy outside by the soccer field and Marcus got into a physical altercation with a male. Someone close to the situation states that Markieff was not involved in the altercation, but just kept the few people that came around back and that Marcus was the one involved in the physical altercation. It is said that the male ended up going to the hospital following the altercation. It is also said that police are investigating the situation. I have been told that a personal matter is what led to this alleged altercation.
https://www.facebook.com/mrorng
So no new information whatsoever. Thanks for that informative post Mr. Orng.
Re: Morris twins tied to possible assault probe
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:53 pm
by AmareIsGod
Come on guys.. It's FOE.. FOE4LIFE!