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Anyone but Kaminsky.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Anyone but Kaminsky.

Based on what? Those are fighting words for me.

Preacherpj wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Anyone but Kaminsky.

Based on what? Those are fighting words for me.

He's 7' tall and his best skill is outside shooting.
He's borderline unathletic by NBA standards.
He's the oldest player projected in the lottery.
Wisconsin runs a highly structured offense. (albeit, an effective one)
Bo Ryan has produced one NBA player of note in his career at Wisconsin: Devin Harris.

I don't dislike Kaminsky as a player in general. I just think 13 is way too early to take him.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Preacherpj wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Anyone but Kaminsky.

Based on what? Those are fighting words for me.

He's 7' tall and his best skill is outside shooting.
He's borderline unathletic by NBA standards.
He's the oldest player projected in the lottery.
Wisconsin runs a highly structured offense. (albeit, an effective one)
Bo Ryan has produced one NBA player of note in his career at Wisconsin: Devin Harris.

I don't dislike Kaminsky as a player in general. I just think 13 is way too early to take him.

Allow me to retort, point by point;

- 7' footers who can shoot are really good things
- He's an OK athlete, he's not elite, but he's not a worse athlete than a guy like Bobby Portis.
- He's 22 years old. Maybe that makes him old in the lottery, but how is 22 years old a bad thing? He's 5 years away from his prime; if anything you are drafting a more mature kid.
- Wisconsin ran a lot of offense through Kaminsky, it was structured but they weren't running the Princeton offense or anything like that. They would P/R with Kaminsky or try to set him up in the post. Really not too different from a lot places.
- Not sure what Bo Ryan's track record has to do with Kaminsky. He typically doesn't recruit really well so he doesn't have the high-upside kids that end up in the NBA.

I think Kaminsky at #13 would be a home run, but sounds like a moot point anyway as he's likely gone before we pick.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:I don't dislike Kaminsky as a player in general. I just think 13 is way too early to take him.

He's going to go much earlier.

WCS (5 votes) is off the board.

Preacherpj wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Preacherpj wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Anyone but Kaminsky.

Based on what? Those are fighting words for me.

He's 7' tall and his best skill is outside shooting.
He's borderline unathletic by NBA standards.
He's the oldest player projected in the lottery.
Wisconsin runs a highly structured offense. (albeit, an effective one)
Bo Ryan has produced one NBA player of note in his career at Wisconsin: Devin Harris.

I don't dislike Kaminsky as a player in general. I just think 13 is way too early to take him.

Allow me to retort, point by point;

- 7' footers who can shoot are really good things
- He's an OK athlete, he's not elite, but he's not a worse athlete than a guy like Bobby Portis.
- He's 22 years old. Maybe that makes him old in the lottery, but how is 22 years old a bad thing? He's 5 years away from his prime; if anything you are drafting a more mature kid.
- Wisconsin ran a lot of offense through Kaminsky, it was structured but they weren't running the Princeton offense or anything like that. They would P/R with Kaminsky or try to set him up in the post. Really not too different from a lot places.
- Not sure what Bo Ryan's track record has to do with Kaminsky. He typically doesn't recruit really well so he doesn't have the high-upside kids that end up in the NBA.

I think Kaminsky at #13 would be a home run, but sounds like a moot point anyway as he's likely gone before we pick.

7' tall and can shoot is a good thing, but not so much when it's a player's best skill.
I haven't seen enough of Portis to make a comparison.
My point is that the NBA is more free flowing. It's very rare for a team to run set plays like Wisconsin every time, hence Kaminsky won't have the same looks he had in college.
The Bo Ryan point is meant to be a compliment to him. He coaches players up, but they rarely improve past their college level ability.

In my opinion, his ceiling is Channing Frye, whom I think only went at #8 because of the poor draft class.

Stanley Johnson (2 votes, including mine) off the board to Detroit at #8.

Sunsfan4life wrote:When it's all said and done I think we'll wound up with Devin Booker.

I want us to trade up though and land 1 of the top 6. I don't see it happening though.

NAILED IT.

BPA and fits a need? I'm good with it.