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Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:49 am
by Indy
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:46 am
So John wall, already out for the season with surgery on his foot, developed an infection in his heel and when they went in to check it out they discovered he also ruptured his Achilles. Without the injuries his contract looked rough...now it is worst contract in the history of the nba bad. It hasn’t even started yet...4 years and 170 million starts next season...yikes
Won't insurance pay it now that his leg died?

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:53 am
by specialsauce
How many unprotected first round draft picks would you have to get in return to be willing to take on that contract?

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:53 am
by specialsauce
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:16 am
Eh I'd trade either of them if we get Ball back. This team sucks. Nobody we have is too untouchable. If we keep Booker, Ayton, and our 2019 1st rounder, and still get Ball, we won the trade.
I agree with the exception of adding Bridges to your list of assets I'd prefer to keep.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:12 pm
by Split T
Indy wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:49 am
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:46 am
So John wall, already out for the season with surgery on his foot, developed an infection in his heel and when they went in to check it out they discovered he also ruptured his Achilles. Without the injuries his contract looked rough...now it is worst contract in the history of the nba bad. It hasn’t even started yet...4 years and 170 million starts next season...yikes
Won't insurance pay it now that his leg died?
They view it as a 12 month injury, so Washington can’t even get a disabled player exemption for next year because he should return sometime next season.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:15 pm
by The Bobster
Indy wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:49 am
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:46 am
So John wall, already out for the season with surgery on his foot, developed an infection in his heel and when they went in to check it out they discovered he also ruptured his Achilles. Without the injuries his contract looked rough...now it is worst contract in the history of the nba bad. It hasn’t even started yet...4 years and 170 million starts next season...yikes
Won't insurance pay it now that his leg died?
I think it has to be career-ending for insurance to pay off. It's extremely rare that insurance pays off on someone who eventually comes back to play, as I assume Wall will at some point.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:22 pm
by Indy
The Bobster wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:15 pm
Indy wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:49 am
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:46 am
So John wall, already out for the season with surgery on his foot, developed an infection in his heel and when they went in to check it out they discovered he also ruptured his Achilles. Without the injuries his contract looked rough...now it is worst contract in the history of the nba bad. It hasn’t even started yet...4 years and 170 million starts next season...yikes
Won't insurance pay it now that his leg died?
I think it has to be career-ending for insurance to pay off. It's extremely rare that insurance pays off on someone who eventually comes back to play, as I assume Wall will at some point.
So it would be worth $170M to Washington if that Achilles never works right again...

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:22 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
In2ition wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:50 am
SDC wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:00 am
Superbone wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:33 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:28 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:14 pm


Yes
Really? I don't get it. I don't know why folks prefer Jackson over TJ.
Really? I don't get it. I don't know why folks prefer TJ over Jackson.
lonzo and josh jackson together doesnt work in the modern nba.
What? This is ridiculous.
Not ridiculous, the current competition demands you to have at least three shooters in the floor, and I mean it with 3pt range, so we would be forced to accomodate the rest of the lineup around those two or get killed offensively. And still, teams would leave JJ open, sag off Lonzo daring him to shoot and stay at home with the rest of the team, put another non-shooter or a last-year-Warren on the court and we are toast.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:48 pm
by Cap
rhylek wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:49 am
Gilbert Arenas 2.0
Worse.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:31 pm
by JeremyG

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:02 pm
by TOO
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:31 pm
Posturing.

Part of me thinks this was done 3 days ago and they are just doing this for the chatter.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:17 pm
by Shabazz
LA can't put together a better package than that - at least not without involving a 3rd team that would value some of those assets more.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:26 pm
by iLLmatic
I'd almost want that trade to go through, that would gut LAs team completely.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:56 pm
by carey
Split T wrote:So John wall, already out for the season with surgery on his foot, developed an infection in his heel and when they went in to check it out they discovered he also ruptured his Achilles. Without the injuries his contract looked rough...now it is worst contract in the history of the nba bad. It hasn’t even started yet...4 years and 170 million starts next season...yikes
Apparently he slipped and fell at home. That's how he tore it. Does that give Washington any recourse?

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:59 pm
by Indy
carey wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:56 pm
Split T wrote:So John wall, already out for the season with surgery on his foot, developed an infection in his heel and when they went in to check it out they discovered he also ruptured his Achilles. Without the injuries his contract looked rough...now it is worst contract in the history of the nba bad. It hasn’t even started yet...4 years and 170 million starts next season...yikes
Apparently he slipped and fell at home. That's how he tore it. Does that give Washington any recourse?
That sounds like an interesting story.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:43 pm
by The Bobster
carey wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:56 pm
Split T wrote:So John wall, already out for the season with surgery on his foot, developed an infection in his heel and when they went in to check it out they discovered he also ruptured his Achilles. Without the injuries his contract looked rough...now it is worst contract in the history of the nba bad. It hasn’t even started yet...4 years and 170 million starts next season...yikes
Apparently he slipped and fell at home. That's how he tore it. Does that give Washington any recourse?
Generally, no, unless he's doing something expressly prohibited in his contract.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:34 pm
by Split T


Somehow this isn’t us

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:17 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:34 pm


Somehow this isn’t us
Right? I am shocked this isn't the Suns.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:47 pm
by Cap
Sad Suns Fan wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:17 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:34 pm


Somehow this isn’t us
Right? I am shocked this isn't the Suns.
We do have a similar pattern.

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                                                                                       Team                                                Oppo                                                         Diff
Rk         Date    Tm Opp    Result  MP FG FGA  FG% 2P 2PA  2P% 3P 3PA  3P% FT FTA  FT% PTS FG FGA  FG% 2P 2PA  2P% 3P 3PA  3P% FT FTA  FT% PTS   FG FGA   FG%  2P 2PA   2P%  3P 3PA   3P%  FT FTA   FT% PTS
1    1971-03-10   PHO ATL  L 98-139 240                                  38 22  32 .688  98                                  52 35  48 .729 139                                        -14 -13 -16 -.042 -41
2    1988-04-02   PHO SEA L 107-151 240 34  83 .410 31  74 .419  3   9 .333 36  47 .766 107 59 105 .562 57  99 .576  2   6 .333 31  42 .738 151  -25 -22 -.152 -26 -25 -.157  +1  +3  .000  +5  +5 +.028 -44
3    1997-04-27   PHO SEA  L 78-122 240 21  78 .269 16  54 .296  5  24 .208 31  38 .816  78 45  92 .489 36  64 .563  9  28 .321 23  30 .767 122  -24 -14 -.220 -20 -10 -.266  -4  -4 -.113  +8  +8 +.049 -44
4    2012-11-28   PHO DET  L 77-117 240 28  82 .341 22  61 .361  6  21 .286 15  20 .750  77 40  76 .526 28  60 .467 12  16 .750 25  35 .714 117  -12  +6 -.185  -6  +1 -.106  -6  +5 -.464 -10 -15 +.036 -40
5    2016-02-22   PHO LAC  L 84-124 240 31  88 .352 24  64 .375  7  24 .292 15  20 .750  84 44  80 .550 31  56 .554 13  24 .542 23  35 .657 124  -13  +8 -.198  -7  +8 -.179  -6   0 -.250  -8 -15 +.093 -40
6    2017-10-18   PHO POR  L 76-124 240 28  89 .315 21  62 .339  7  27 .259 13  18 .722  76 44  90 .489 30  66 .455 14  24 .583 22  28 .786 124  -16  -1 -.174  -9  -4 -.116  -7  +3 -.324  -9 -10 -.063 -48
7    2017-10-21   PHO LAC  L 88-130 240 27  71 .380 21  47 .447  6  24 .250 28  38 .737  88 48  88 .545 36  62 .581 12  26 .462 22  30 .733 130  -21 -17 -.165 -15 -15 -.134  -6  -2 -.212  +6  +8 +.004 -42
8    2018-02-07   PHO SAS  L 81-129 240 33  97 .340 30  65 .462  3  32 .094 12  18 .667  81 46  93 .495 30  61 .492 16  32 .500 21  27 .778 129  -13  +4 -.154   0  +4 -.030 -13   0 -.406  -9  -9 -.111 -48
9    2018-02-12   PHO GSW  L 83-129 240 33  95 .347 30  72 .417  3  23 .130 14  22 .636  83 52  89 .584 41  63 .651 11  26 .423 14  21 .667 129  -19  +6 -.237 -11  +9 -.234  -8  -3 -.293   0  +1 -.030 -46
Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 2/5/2019.

5 in the span and 4 before, instead of 7 and 2. We’re at 6 and 3 if you want to lengthen the span just a bit.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:57 am
by Flagrant Fowl




Today we are all Pacers fans.

Re: Around the League: Week 16 1/28-2/3

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:10 am
by Mori Chu
"Lebron's gonna trade you!" (clap clap clap-clap-clap)

Savage. Good on those Indy fans.