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Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 10:49 am
by iLLmatic
Wormwood wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:44 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:41 am
This isn't really all that bad. It was just a dumb decision(s). He could have easily, if he used his head, gotten into the VIP section without having to try to sneak in. Seems like a harmless incident, but it does add to the other dumb things he's done. Kind of like his shot selection last year.
Dude, he tried to escape WHILE ALREADY HANDCUFFED. Not only is it likely felony escape charges, it's freaking stupid as hell. Like, America's Dumbest Criminals level.
Voice of reason, WW.
What a stupid guy. But, but, but, he plays chess with old guys in the park.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:07 am
by Split T
Really stupid thing to do...I wouldn’t classify it as a bad thing though. Kicking that girls car and threatening her in college was infinitely worse IMO. Still all for moving on from him.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:11 am
by specialsauce
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:49 am
Wormwood wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:44 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:41 am
This isn't really all that bad. It was just a dumb decision(s). He could have easily, if he used his head, gotten into the VIP section without having to try to sneak in. Seems like a harmless incident, but it does add to the other dumb things he's done. Kind of like his shot selection last year.
Dude, he tried to escape WHILE ALREADY HANDCUFFED. Not only is it likely felony escape charges, it's freaking stupid as hell. Like, America's Dumbest Criminals level.
Voice of reason, WW.
What a stupid guy. But, but, but, he plays chess with old guys in the park.
Yes just another example of how dumb of a person he really is.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:15 am
by Wormwood
Split T wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:07 am
Really stupid thing to do...I wouldn’t classify it as a bad thing though. Kicking that girls car and threatening her in college was infinitely worse IMO. Still all for moving on from him.
I'll partially agree with you. What he did in college was worse from a morality standpoint (he shouldn't have been sneaking into the VIP area in the first place, but violence is way worse). But that brings up a point... How the f*** do you successfully sneak into someplace where you're 6'8"? Or, more importantly, how do you lack of self awareness required to realize that at 6'8" you draw a LOT of attention and stealth is kind of your character dump stat?
So... very... dumb... on so many levels.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:26 am
by Indy
I am sure this will help his trade value. Think we can get a 2nd rounder for him?
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
by Cap
Indy wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:26 am
I am sure this will help his trade value. Think we can get a 2nd rounder for him?
A 2nd rounder and a bad contract, most likely.
Just decline his option, use him sparingly, and let his contract expire at the end of the season.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
by In2ition
It sounds like he had access earlier in the day and may have lost his VIP badge somewhere, so he probably felt that they should have known he was there(being 6'8" and a famous NBA player) earlier. Idk, he just doesn't make the best decisions, but I don't think he's malicious or that this makes him a bad human being.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:45 am
by Cap
In2ition wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
It sounds like he had access earlier in the day and may have lost his VIP badge somewhere, so he probably felt that they should have known he was there(being 6'8" and a famous NBA player) earlier. Idk, he just doesn't make the best decisions, but I don't think he's malicious or that this makes him a bad human being.
This would be a lot easier to look past if he actually made a positive contribution on the court.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:54 am
by In2ition
Cap wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:45 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
It sounds like he had access earlier in the day and may have lost his VIP badge somewhere, so he probably felt that they should have known he was there(being 6'8" and a famous NBA player) earlier. Idk, he just doesn't make the best decisions, but I don't think he's malicious or that this makes him a bad human being.
This would be a lot easier to look past if he actually made a positive contribution on the court.
No doubt.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:02 pm
by Split T
I really wanted Jackson to work out. I was a huge fan of his before the draft and was really happy to get him. He’s been very disappointing on the court and a headache off the court. He’s gonna get expensive, 7 million next year and a 9 million 4th year option that we have to decide on before he plays another game. Oubre and Bridges passed him on the wing hierarchy and the best prospects at our most likely draft position will be wings.
Ayton, Booker, Oubre, Bridges. Everything else is very expendable and should be used to build a team.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:03 pm
by Indy
In2ition wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
It sounds like he had access earlier in the day and may have lost his VIP badge somewhere, so he probably felt that they should have known he was there(being 6'8" and a famous NBA player) earlier. Idk, he just doesn't make the best decisions, but I don't think he's malicious or that this makes him a bad human being.
running away from the police after being arrested and put in cuffs is a good indication he thinks he is above the law. Just like what he did in college, and when he blew off the fan appearance. He isn't worth the effort. If he wants to go off on his own and learn how to be a responsible adult, great. I hope he does that somewhere else.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:17 pm
by In2ition
Indy wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 12:03 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
It sounds like he had access earlier in the day and may have lost his VIP badge somewhere, so he probably felt that they should have known he was there(being 6'8" and a famous NBA player) earlier. Idk, he just doesn't make the best decisions, but I don't think he's malicious or that this makes him a bad human being.
running away from the police after being arrested and put in cuffs is a good indication he thinks he is above the law. Just like what he did in college, and when he blew off the fan appearance. He isn't worth the effort. If he wants to go off on his own and learn how to be a responsible adult, great. I hope he does that somewhere else.
Idk that it means he feels he's above the law at all. He might be worried about a number of things, how this looks with the Suns, or possibly that he was worried about police brutality. When you are shown evidence over and over of people getting beaten down by police, particularly in the Florida, there is no telling what was going through his mind.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:23 pm
by iLLmatic
Cap wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
Indy wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:26 am
I am sure this will help his trade value. Think we can get a 2nd rounder for him?
A 2nd rounder and a bad contract, most likely.
Just decline his option, use him sparingly, and let his contract expire at the end of the season.
We'll give him the good ol' Dragan Bender treatment.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:25 pm
by iLLmatic
In2ition wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
It sounds like he had access earlier in the day and may have lost his VIP badge somewhere, so he probably felt that they should have known he was there(being 6'8" and a famous NBA player) earlier. Idk, he just doesn't make the best decisions, but I don't think he's malicious or that this makes him a bad human being.
That would definitely suck losing your VIP access. I'm not sure I'd let it get to the level of being handcuffed and then running after I had been handcuffed by the police.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:33 pm
by In2ition
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 12:25 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
It sounds like he had access earlier in the day and may have lost his VIP badge somewhere, so he probably felt that they should have known he was there(being 6'8" and a famous NBA player) earlier. Idk, he just doesn't make the best decisions, but I don't think he's malicious or that this makes him a bad human being.
That would definitely suck losing your VIP access. I'm not sure I'd let it get to the level of being handcuffed and then running after I had been handcuffed by the police.
Alcohol gives you all kinds of ideas you think are good at the time, haha.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:02 pm
by Wormwood
Split T wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 12:02 pm
I really wanted Jackson to work out. I was a huge fan of his before the draft and was really happy to get him. He’s been very disappointing on the court and a headache off the court. He’s gonna get expensive, 7 million next year and a 9 million 4th year option that we have to decide on before he plays another game. Oubre and Bridges passed him on the wing hierarchy and the best prospects at our most likely draft position will be wings.
Ayton, Booker, Oubre, Bridges. Everything else is very expendable and should be used to build a team.
Funny how the 2nd and 3rd highest paid players on the team totally aren't part of our plans. This roster is a football bat.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:03 pm
by Wormwood
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 12:23 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:43 am
Indy wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:26 am
I am sure this will help his trade value. Think we can get a 2nd rounder for him?
A 2nd rounder and a bad contract, most likely.
Just decline his option, use him sparingly, and let his contract expire at the end of the season.
We'll give him the good ol' Dragan Bender treatment.
We have to wait
another year for that. Until then, he's a $7M cap hit.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:16 pm
by The Bobster
What a dumbass.
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:24 pm
by AmareIsGod
Cap, let's rescind on my previous prediction:
JJ will be better than KP
at getting in trouble at nightclubs when all is said and done [in 2020]. Mark it. — AIG, with Indy betting against
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2673 ... ltercation
Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:42 pm
by Indy
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 1:24 pm
Cap, let's rescind on my previous prediction:
JJ will be better than KP
at getting in trouble at nightclubs when all is said and done [in 2020]. Mark it. — AIG, with Indy betting against
Ha!