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Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:28 am

I care a lot about the environment and climate change, but I hate when radical protestors do stupid shit like this.

“Just Stop Oil” are a bunch of assholes who should not be equated with the broader climate change movement. They are not representative of serious people.

The good thing is that rock can be cleaned and even if it is left like it is, the rock will outlive the protesters and the paint they sprayed on it by millions of year at least.

I Hope This Makes The Idaho Water Shutoff To Farmers Real For People

Idaho is fining Farmers $300 PER ACRE for using water

Farmers are already declaring bankruptcy

Here are 2 farmers from eastern Idaho who have just received their water shutoff orders

“We just got our curtailment letter from the Idaho Department of Water Resources and they're telling us we have to shut our eight wells off.”

“Shut our water off?”

— “They want us to shut our water off. — They want us to turn our wells off.”

“The reservoirs are full, yet we're being told we cannot water 500,000 acres of crops”

“Thing. If you decide that you're just gonna keep watering, they're going to fine you $300 per acre. Well, if you're just growing a crop like hay, it doesn't make $300 an acre. You're just gonna lose money on that.”

“you look on the curtailment paper it's not just farmers it's commercial businesses.”

They give lots of details about the water shutoff order (see video)

They talk about more locations being effected and what the result of that will be:

— “They want to shut off just in Bingham County. So Bingham County grows more potatoes than any other county in the state and just in Bingham County there's $1.3 ish billion dollars spent in the county. And if that water was curtailed, it would reduce the amount of money spent in the county by three to $400 million.

So you wouldn't just be putting out, you wouldn't just be putting farmers out of business, you'd be putting people who deliver gas out of business, people who sell groceries, you'd be putting all the equipment people out of business, the repair, the repair men, the service men.

We just had people coming out, working on our pivots and stuff. You'd be putting all those guys out of business, which would hurt everyone”

“Trucking companies would go out of business. Yep. You have a lot of guys who have storages for potatoes. All those guys, they would no longer be getting rent for their potatoes. It would just devastate the entire Idaho economy.”

“There's already guys, there's already local farmers who've shut their wells off and their fields have already dried up because of this curtailment order and they're going to be out millions of dollars they're going to end up declaring bankruptcy and if the farmers declare bankruptcy the banks that finance the farmers are going to declare bankruptcy and then the whole economy is just shot. It's literally going to destroy the Idaho economy.”

“We gotta get this thing spreading like wildfire to make sure everybody knows about this. Because like it or not, it's gonna affect everybody.”

There is so much information in this video and I highly recommend taking the time to watch it

I took a minute to Google this, and it sounds like it's more complicated than your ape lets on.

https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local ... 149a590b40

It's not that complicated to farmers.

Who / what is to blame for the situation?

Oh boy….. if you like agriculture scandals, boy do I have a doozy. I really need to right a book about it.

Ducey negotiating a deal with the Saudis to grow alfalfa to ship back to SA, and use unlimited amounts of AZ ground water should be punishable.

Yea that was garbage.

I think what various ranchers have done in the state is far worse personally…. It’s the biggest bunch of bs I’ve ever seen. If you ever wanna go down a rabbit hole, look at property valuations with “grazing”. During the housing crisis and boom of 2006+2008 there is a mass amount of shenanigans that went on in Pinal, Pima and maricopa counties. It continued on and was something I was fighting in courts before I went on disability. My life was threatened multiple times if I was to look into it and told many times “ever heard of don boles?”.

Sounds scary. Water is blood to farmers.

There's been some talk about the US petroleum reserve, and whether Biden is using it up, whether Trump increased it, etc. I was curious so I googled to try to get some numbers. I couldn't find further than 5 years back, but here's an interesting chart. It looks like we had about 640 million barrels in reserve near the end of 2020. Today we have about 370 million barrels in reserve. So it is true that we've used almost half of it up during the Biden presidency. Whether that's good or bad is a separate discussion. Source:

https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_endin ... year%20ago.

Biden used it as a weapon against OPEC and it worked.


https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafH ... 1NUS_1&f=A





Doesn’t look like it’s all gone to me.

Maybe you missed this post where I said what it was.

In2ition wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:16 am

The time of need was for poll numbers? He sold off 50% of the reserve and bought back 5% at a profit. That's the genius of Biden? Currently, we are at 367.9 million barrels of oil in the reserve. Our capacity is 714 million barrels. When the world is gearing up for WWIII, you don't drain your reserves, you fill them up before all hell breaks loose. He is planning on draining them again, to boost poll numbers. Sounds like he is doing it for himself again.
https://www.energy.gov/ceser/spr-quick-facts

Biden is playing global chess. Maga is just complaining about Biden no matter what and taking our adversaries side. Nothing Maga says means anything to me anymore.

Nodack wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:14 am

Biden is playing global chess. Maga is just complaining about Biden no matter what and taking our adversaries side. Nothing Maga says means anything to me anymore.

LOL, ok...sure. This is pure nonsense. 5D chessmaster, lmao.

Don't Republicans want gas prices to be low? Shouldn't they be happy if Biden uses some of our petroleum reserves to keep gas prices reasonable this year?

Of course they want low gas prices, but that's not how you do it and it's only temporary. It's like putting a bandaid on a gaping wound. And, it creates a vulnerability in our defenses, as they are depleted. That rainy day fund is gone, and here comes the flood.

Disturbing but relevant thread about climate change and how it is impacting the world this year.

An underrated one of the many ways in which it would be bad for Trump to be President is that he would completely fuck us on our work to fight climate change.