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Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:22 pm
by TOO
EDC wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:* Markieff Morris somewhat quietly had a 31-point night and looked great overall
INFORMER wrote: Markieff was a monster tonight.
I can't help thinking back about how much crap Amare use to get for not getting 10 rebounds a game. He could score 30 points on 70% shooting and still people would trash him because he only pulled in 7 or 8 boards.

Kieff needs to rebound the ball. Four rebounds from our starting power forward is bad. :(
Well said.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:05 pm
by JCSunsfan
EDC wrote:I'm kinda worried we are going to resign Green to a contract like PJ's in the off season. Green is a great guy but man does he hurt the team more than he helps it. I wonder if the rumor that the Clips were willing to give up a draft pick for him at the trade deadline were true.
I don't think Green is that bad, its just who do you want taking those shots? Green or Archie. I remember thinking the same thing when EJ was coming to the end of his career. He was known as a shooter, but Jeff Hornacek was coming on and was money as a shooter. I knew it would be better for Horny to be taking those shots.

Archie is very close to surpassing Green in the rotation--not necessarily as a shooter, but rather with his D and ability to get to the line. I would think the simple thing would be to let Green walk this summer.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:15 pm
by Indy
EDC wrote:I'm kinda worried we are going to resign Green to a contract like PJ's in the off season. Green is a great guy but man does he hurt the team more than he helps it. I wonder if the rumor that the Clips were willing to give up a draft pick for him at the trade deadline were true.
I completely disagree that he hurts more than he helps. I don't even think it is close.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:21 pm
by Indy
JCSunsfan wrote:
EDC wrote:I'm kinda worried we are going to resign Green to a contract like PJ's in the off season. Green is a great guy but man does he hurt the team more than he helps it. I wonder if the rumor that the Clips were willing to give up a draft pick for him at the trade deadline were true.
I don't think Green is that bad, its just who do you want taking those shots? Green or Archie. I remember thinking the same thing when EJ was coming to the end of his career. He was known as a shooter, but Jeff Hornacek was coming on and was money as a shooter. I knew it would be better for Horny to be taking those shots.

Archie is very close to surpassing Green in the rotation--not necessarily as a shooter, but rather with his D and ability to get to the line. I would think the simple thing would be to let Green walk this summer.
Maybe I'm a Green apologist, but there is no way that after seeing Archie for a season total of 100 minutes, we know he is ready to take that time. Let's get him in at least half our games for even 5 before we start replacing Green.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:04 pm
by iLLmatic
djy2j wrote:Can't wait to use all this cap room on an all star free agent. Oops thats right no free agent wants to sign in Phoenix since Steve Nash. I guess management forgot that.

Also glad we kept the 3rd best PG out of tbe bunch in Bledsoe. Yeesh.
Don't go taking that pessimism to arizonasportsfans.com, you'll be considered a troll. It's funny how different message boards have overall differing opinions about the team.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:10 pm
by TOO
Indy wrote:
EDC wrote:I'm kinda worried we are going to resign Green to a contract like PJ's in the off season. Green is a great guy but man does he hurt the team more than he helps it. I wonder if the rumor that the Clips were willing to give up a draft pick for him at the trade deadline were true.
I completely disagree that he hurts more than he helps. I don't even think it is close.
I agree with you and I'm hardly his biggest fan. He drives me bonkers at times, but I'm not sure he's ever lost a game single handedly. He's carried the offense though, multiple times.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:10 pm
by Indy
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Indy wrote:
EDC wrote:I'm kinda worried we are going to resign Green to a contract like PJ's in the off season. Green is a great guy but man does he hurt the team more than he helps it. I wonder if the rumor that the Clips were willing to give up a draft pick for him at the trade deadline were true.
I completely disagree that he hurts more than he helps. I don't even think it is close.
I agree with you and I'm hardly his biggest fan. He drives me bonkers at times, but I'm not sure he's ever lost a game single handedly. He's carried the offense though, multiple times.
Exactly.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:59 pm
by Superbone
iLLmatic wrote:I'm lovin Archies play so far.
Goodwin had a really good game. Showed promise.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:00 pm
by Mori Chu
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Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:06 pm
by Mori Chu
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Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:11 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote:Not very impressed with Bledsoe as the solo PG right now.
#WrongHorse

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:12 pm
by Superbone
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Green couldn't guard a lamp.
I like lamp.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:13 pm
by Superbone
Wally_West wrote:It was clearly going in, so why fucking grab the net?
He was pushed. He had to keep his balance.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:14 pm
by Superbone
Wally_West wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:That ball was falling down when he grabbed the net, it's not like the ball was dinging back and forth on the rim.
PJ shouldn't be grabbing the net regardless. It is beyond dumb.
Yeah, he should just fall on his face. Asshole.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:16 pm
by Superbone
iLLmatic wrote:What a disappointing game by Bledsoe. 4 turnovers, 6 assists by our starting point guard for the next 4 years, I'm so excited.
But at least he had the promised 30+ points, right? Right?

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:27 pm
by Superbone
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
EDC wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:* Markieff Morris somewhat quietly had a 31-point night and looked great overall
INFORMER wrote: Markieff was a monster tonight.
I can't help thinking back about how much crap Amare use to get for not getting 10 rebounds a game. He could score 30 points on 70% shooting and still people would trash him because he only pulled in 7 or 8 boards.

Kieff needs to rebound the ball. Four rebounds from our starting power forward is bad. :(
Well said.
Then you guys are going to be continuously disappointed. Rebounding is not a big part of Markieff's game. He is a skilled big offensively but he is average defensively and a poor rebounder. He is what he is. Luckily, Len is a good rebounder and will complement 'Kieff.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:34 pm
by ShelC
Can we at least get n rebounding, energy big off the bench then?

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:38 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:Can we at least get an rebounding, energy big off the bench then?
That would be good. Probably our biggest need.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:38 pm
by Superbone
One positive from last night: No technicals.

Re: Game Day: Suns (29-25) @ Twolves (11-42), Fri 2/20/15

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:44 pm
by Mori Chu
ShelC wrote:Can we at least get n rebounding, energy big off the bench then?
I thought Brandan Wright was supposed to give us some of that.