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Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:16 am
by OE32
I'm more concerned about PJ v. TJ. TJ needs to start, but I have no confidence that he will actually get the nod. We will keep hearing that TJ needs to improve defensively, while ignoring the fact that he kicks the living **** out of Tucker on offense.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:45 am
by Mori Chu
OE32 wrote:I'm more concerned about PJ v. TJ. TJ needs to start, but I have no confidence that he will actually get the nod. We will keep hearing that TJ needs to improve defensively, while ignoring the fact that he kicks the living **** out of Tucker on offense.
The other argument is that maybe it's better for TJ not to play at the same time as the dueling ballhogs Bledsoe and Knight, because he'll never get any shots. Maybe it's best for Warren to come off the bench where he and Booker can actually get a decent amount of offense in. Then you have a bulldog of Tucker out there with the chucking guard starters to help cover for them defensively (though PJ's defense seems to be falling off). I don't like it but I think that may be the logic.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:20 am
by ShelC
I don't think Warren's style fits with us. He needs a pure distributor who can get him the ball off cuts or in transition. We don't have those players.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:42 am
by In2ition
ShelC wrote:I don't think Warren's style fits with us. He needs a pure distributor who can get him the ball off cuts or in transition. We don't have those players.
Most of the Suns suffer from not having a pure distributor, including Bledsoe and Knight. Everyone would play better immediately if they had that player.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:00 am
by Mori Chu
What kind of player plays well with a pair of selfish chuckers?

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:15 am
by In2ition
Probably the kind that decides when and where the chuckers get the ball.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:22 am
by ShelC
Maybe not so much a pure passer, but a passing/motion offense with multiple guys touching the ball. Warren isn't a natural shooter, but a natural scorer who can work in the midrange, make cuts, finish in traffic a bit.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:52 am
by TOO
Mori Chu wrote:What kind of player plays well with a pair of selfish chuckers?
Ben Simmons.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:59 am
by JCSunsfan
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:What kind of player plays well with a pair of selfish chuckers?
Ben Simmons.
That's the odd thing about this draft. Ingram might be the better overall prospect to be a team alpha, scoring leader etc. But Simmon's skill set would fit very nicely with this Suns team. I actually think the ball would get down into the post more, because the guards would have hopes of getting it back out again in a good position to score.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:29 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:Maybe not so much a pure passer, but a passing/motion offense with multiple guys touching the ball. Warren isn't a natural shooter, but a natural scorer who can work in the midrange, make cuts, finish in traffic a bit.
This is what I'd like to see. Much like the Warriors' offense.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:52 pm
by carey
https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/732981053795618816 So we're working out 2nd round picks first?

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:58 pm
by TOO
carey wrote:https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/732981053795618816 So we're working out 2nd round picks first?
Yeah, McD said they'll start with 28/34 candidates and work up.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 1:45 pm
by Superbone
Yep, those were already scheduled since we knew we had 28/34 for sure. Now that the lottery if over, they will start scheduling guys for the 4/13 picks.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 2:02 pm
by In2ition
With 4 picks in some advantageous positions, I hope that they do a super thorough and accurate job evaluating talent. I'm not over the moon with this draft, but there are a lot of intriguing prospects that could pan out quite well eventually. At the same time, I wouldn't be opposed to trading a pick or picks for something better that aligns with a better long term future. Just please no Knight like trades, and also no short term fixes that sacrifice the future for a slim chance at competing for a playoff spot.

Last year, 4, 13, and 28 would have landed the Suns Porzingis, Booker, and RJ Hunter

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 8:47 pm
by carey
https://twitter.com/azcsports/status/733136292620427264 Don't think this was posted yet, but the Suns tabbed Jay Triano for associate head coach / lead assistant.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 11:43 pm
by Superbone
First run at getting Nash more involved.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:59 am
by Mori Chu
Triano had a run as head coach of the Raptors, right? Is he good? What is his coaching style, what are his strengths, etc.?

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:07 am
by carey
https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/733358058852737024

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:16 am
by Hermen
That's a big lineup right there :D

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:26 am
by carey
Hermen wrote:That's a big lineup right there :D
IKR. Booker the only wing.