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Superbone wrote:Future Dan Langhi?

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/don-lugly-1.html

10/10

Can he run the rick and roll?

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Superbone wrote:Future Dan Langhi?

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/don-lugly-1.html

10/10

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Dennis Smith is in the same tier as Fultz IMO.

He's putting up some crazy numbers. Especially lately. Nc state beat Duke tonight.

Split T wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Dennis Smith is in the same tier as Fultz IMO.

He's putting up some crazy numbers. Especially lately. Nc state beat Duke tonight.

I've yet to see him in a full game, but he looked rather shifty in his highlights. What are his strengths? Any player comparisons come to mind?

carey wrote:

Split T wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Dennis Smith is in the same tier as Fultz IMO.

He's putting up some crazy numbers. Especially lately. Nc state beat Duke tonight.

I've yet to see him in a full game, but he looked rather shifty in his highlights. What are his strengths? Any player comparisons come to mind?

I think you could compare him to to a few guys, size wise he's simialir Jay Williams, athletically he's Russell Westbrook. You could draw Bledsoe comparisons as well, but I think he's a better ball handler already and his shot form is better. He's definitely not a pass 1st guy though, which is what I know everyone here wants, but I think that style of PG is all but dead. Ball is the only one.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

carey wrote:

Split T wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Dennis Smith is in the same tier as Fultz IMO.

He's putting up some crazy numbers. Especially lately. Nc state beat Duke tonight.

I've yet to see him in a full game, but he looked rather shifty in his highlights. What are his strengths? Any player comparisons come to mind?

I think you could compare him to to a few guys, size wise he's simialir Jay Williams, athletically he's Russell Westbrook. You could draw Bledsoe comparisons as well, but I think he's a better ball handler already and his shot form is better. He's definitely not a pass 1st guy though, which is what I know everyone here wants, but I think that style of PG is all but dead. Ball is the only one.

This style of PG is going to be even more valuable in the future, just because it's not encouraged in the AAU world, but it needs to be from an elite athleticism type talent. This is what makes Ball that more valuable, being that he has the size, athleticism and skills that make him multi-dimensional and exposed as a one trick pony(aka Kendall Marshall).

I think todays offenses being 3pt and PnR based minimizes the value of a run and gun Kidd type PG. Look at Harden for example, he's certainly not a pass 1st player, but he's getting everyone involved as well as any PG in the NBA. Decision making is far more important to me than just being a pass 1st guy. I'm not sure how well Ball will play in a half court setting, thats my main concern with him.

If the pg can't create for themselves or shoot, they will have trouble in the nba offenses, but that doesn't describe Ball. I think he would be fine in an nba offense, and augmebt other portions that most pgs don't do as well.

carey wrote:I've yet to see him in a full game, but he looked rather shifty in his highlights. What are his strengths? Any player comparisons come to mind?

He moves like IT4.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

carey wrote:

Split T wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Dennis Smith is in the same tier as Fultz IMO.

He's putting up some crazy numbers. Especially lately. Nc state beat Duke tonight.

I've yet to see him in a full game, but he looked rather shifty in his highlights. What are his strengths? Any player comparisons come to mind?

I think you could compare him to to a few guys, size wise he's simialir Jay Williams, athletically he's Russell Westbrook. You could draw Bledsoe comparisons as well, but I think he's a better ball handler already and his shot form is better. He's definitely not a pass 1st guy though, which is what I know everyone here wants, but I think that style of PG is all but dead. Ball is the only one.

Definitely in the Westbrook, Bledsoe mold of PG's. He's not as freaky athletic as Westbrook, but no one is. He's got a more advanced jumper than Westbrook or Bled had at this stage, but I wouldn't consider him a great shooter. He's solid though. Decent playmaker, gets most of his assists of drive and dish. Marbury and Francis are other PG's you could compare him to. I wasn't very high on him at the start of the year, but he continues to put up impressive numbers. Numbers wise, he's not too far off what Fultz is doing this year. I still like Fultz better and Ball and even Ntilikina, but I think Smith will be a good player.

He is most definitely Westbrook athletic. I've seen enough vids to know that, he's ridiculous. Even his dunk at the end of the Duke game was Zach Lavine breakaway-esque.

Didn't mean it as a dig on Smith. He's definitely an incredible athlete, and is as athletic as any pg not named Westbrook. We've never seen a pg with as much speed, explosiveness, and power as westbrook.

Just some vids on your boy Frank Nkiblahblah, reminds me of Shaun Livingston. Which before the injury could've been a really good player.

Split T wrote:Didn't mean it as a dig on Smith. He's definitely an incredible athlete, and is as athletic as any pg not named Westbrook. We've never seen a pg with as much speed, explosiveness, and power as westbrook.

Taken after Rose, Michael Beasley, and O.J. Mayo in the draft. SMH.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Just some vids on your boy Frank Nkiblahblah, reminds me of Shaun Livingston. Which before the injury could've been a really good player.

I think he'll be a good pg and he's big and can guard 3 positions. If our pick ends up 7-10, he'd be my top target.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:He is most definitely Westbrook athletic. I've seen enough vids to know that, he's ridiculous. Even his dunk at the end of the Duke game was Zach Lavine breakaway-esque.

Not nearly as long as Westbrook, or even Bledsoe for that matter. The Steve Francis comps aren't bad.

Shabazz wrote:Not nearly as long as Westbrook, or even Bledsoe for that matter. The Steve Francis comps aren't bad.

That's not the type of PG I want. I was not a Francis fan.

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Josh Jackson, showed some nice open court ball handling and good shooting in this game. If we don't get #1 and Fultz, he's my top target.

I'd like Jackson, he's got great vision and feel for a SF. Could be a point forward type.