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Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:13 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote:Ya, I've always liked Durant more than Lebron and don't really see a big difference between Lebron to Miami and Durant to GS. I wish he would have stayed in OKC, would have made the playoffs more interesting, but hats off to him, he was incredible.
I will never like what LeBron did either, but how you can't see the difference is mind boggling to me.
Heat, decent team, won 47 games, lost in 1st round to Celtics
Warriors, 73 win team, that Durant's previous employer blew a 3-1 lead to.
Just
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:14 pm
by TOO
AmareIsGod wrote:Split T wrote:Agreed and I think there is a decent gap between 2 and 3
Third best? Westbrook. Harden.?
Kawhi is better than both those guys, and its a damn shame we didnt get to see Kawhi/KD in the WCF.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:39 pm
by Split T
AmareIsGod wrote:Split T wrote:Agreed and I think there is a decent gap between 2 and 3
Third best? Westbrook. Harden.?
Could be, I probably lean kawhi, but curry, harden, Westbrook are all right there.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:52 pm
by Split T
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Split T wrote:Ya, I've always liked Durant more than Lebron and don't really see a big difference between Lebron to Miami and Durant to GS. I wish he would have stayed in OKC, would have made the playoffs more interesting, but hats off to him, he was incredible.
I will never like what LeBron did either, but how you can't see the difference is mind boggling to me.
Heat, decent team, won 47 games, lost in 1st round to Celtics
Warriors, 73 win team, that Durant's previous employer blew a 3-1 lead to.
Just
Do you think Miami winning 70 games would have stopped Lebron from joining them? He arguably joined up with the 2nd best player in the NBA and definitely one of the top 5. And he added another top 10-15 player in Chris Bosh.
Would it be different if the warriors were just curry and klay and had won 50 games, then added Durant and Green in the offseason?
My point is both players took easy ways out to championships. Both ditched their teammates for the best possible teammates they could find to make it easier to win a championship. Durant just had a more cohesive group of "better teammates" to join.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:59 pm
by carey
I'm with Split here. It's slightly different but LeBron still built his own super team. Not once, but twice. I don't give a fuck about Durant leaving OKC for GS. He put in his time became a FA and got his right to choose. If you want to be mad at anyone at all, be mad at the NBPA for allowing the cap to spike like that instead of smoothing it out over time.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:29 pm
by Cap
If we're being honest, Danny Manning and Wayman Tisdale started it, and most of us weren't complaining then.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:32 pm
by Furlanfufi
Nash won a ring, finally...
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:11 pm
by iLLmatic
Split T wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Split T wrote:Ya, I've always liked Durant more than Lebron and don't really see a big difference between Lebron to Miami and Durant to GS. I wish he would have stayed in OKC, would have made the playoffs more interesting, but hats off to him, he was incredible.
I will never like what LeBron did either, but how you can't see the difference is mind boggling to me.
Heat, decent team, won 47 games, lost in 1st round to Celtics
Warriors, 73 win team, that Durant's previous employer blew a 3-1 lead to.
Just
Do you think Miami winning 70 games would have stopped Lebron from joining them? He arguably joined up with the 2nd best player in the NBA and definitely one of the top 5. And he added another top 10-15 player in Chris Bosh.
Would it be different if the warriors were just curry and klay and had won 50 games, then added Durant and Green in the offseason?
My point is both players took easy ways out to championships. Both ditched their teammates for the best possible teammates they could find to make it easier to win a championship. Durant just had a more cohesive group of "better teammates" to join.
Yep, both players stacked the deck in their favor. I'm glad Durant won a championship. He's a helluva player and a true joy to watch. In addition to that, all the LeBron leg humpers are extra salty.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:13 pm
by iLLmatic
Cap wrote:If we're being honest, Danny Manning and Wayman Tisdale started it, and most of us weren't complaining then.
I don't think Manning and Tisdale were superstars when they came to the Suns.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:14 pm
by TOO
iLLmatic wrote:Split T wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Split T wrote:Ya, I've always liked Durant more than Lebron and don't really see a big difference between Lebron to Miami and Durant to GS. I wish he would have stayed in OKC, would have made the playoffs more interesting, but hats off to him, he was incredible.
I will never like what LeBron did either, but how you can't see the difference is mind boggling to me.
Heat, decent team, won 47 games, lost in 1st round to Celtics
Warriors, 73 win team, that Durant's previous employer blew a 3-1 lead to.
Just
Do you think Miami winning 70 games would have stopped Lebron from joining them? He arguably joined up with the 2nd best player in the NBA and definitely one of the top 5. And he added another top 10-15 player in Chris Bosh.
Would it be different if the warriors were just curry and klay and had won 50 games, then added Durant and Green in the offseason?
My point is both players took easy ways out to championships. Both ditched their teammates for the best possible teammates they could find to make it easier to win a championship. Durant just had a more cohesive group of "better teammates" to join.
Yep, both players stacked the deck in their favor. I'm glad Durant won a championship. He's a helluva player and a true joy to watch. In addition to that, all the LeBron leg humpers are extra salty.
I'm not sure whats worse, LeBron leg humpers or these legions of Warriors fans everywhere. Yuck. Dislike all parties involved, just dislike the Warriors more because I live in California where the bandwagons flow freely.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:48 pm
by pagielak
Furlanfufi wrote:Nash won a ring, finally...
Yes, first and foremost congrats to Steve for getting a ring, it's just a shame that it wasn't with Suns.
Congrats to the Warriors as well, KD was incredible and they deserved it.
If the Suns built a team like this we wouldn't be complaining
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:08 am
by Superbone
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Split T wrote:Ya, I've always liked Durant more than Lebron and don't really see a big difference between Lebron to Miami and Durant to GS. I wish he would have stayed in OKC, would have made the playoffs more interesting, but hats off to him, he was incredible.
I will never like what LeBron did either, but how you can't see the difference is mind boggling to me.
Heat, decent team, won 47 games, lost in 1st round to Celtics
Warriors, 73 win team, that Durant's previous employer blew a 3-1 lead to.
Just
I'm totally with you, man. I enjoyed watching the Warriors run the previous couple of years but now I despise them since Durant's "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" act. Y'all enjoy year after year of the Warriors extended championship run without any competition. Yawn.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:10 am
by Superbone
Split T wrote:TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Split T wrote:Ya, I've always liked Durant more than Lebron and don't really see a big difference between Lebron to Miami and Durant to GS. I wish he would have stayed in OKC, would have made the playoffs more interesting, but hats off to him, he was incredible.
I will never like what LeBron did either, but how you can't see the difference is mind boggling to me.
Heat, decent team, won 47 games, lost in 1st round to Celtics
Warriors, 73 win team, that Durant's previous employer blew a 3-1 lead to.
Just
Do you think Miami winning 70 games would have stopped Lebron from joining them? He arguably joined up with the 2nd best player in the NBA and definitely one of the top 5. And he added another top 10-15 player in Chris Bosh.
Would it be different if the warriors were just curry and klay and had won 50 games, then added Durant and Green in the offseason?
My point is both players took easy ways out to championships. Both ditched their teammates for the best possible teammates they could find to make it easier to win a championship. Durant just had a more cohesive group of "better teammates" to join.
I don't like either one but Durant's the bigger pussy.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:11 am
by Superbone
Cap wrote:If we're being honest, Danny Manning and Wayman Tisdale started it, and most of us weren't complaining then.
We are not.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:12 am
by Superbone
pagielak wrote:Furlanfufi wrote:Nash won a ring, finally...
Yes, first and foremost congrats to Steve for getting a ring, it's just a shame that it wasn't with Suns.
Congrats to the Warriors as well, KD was incredible and they deserved it.
If the Suns built a team like this we wouldn't be complaining
Funny, I didn't see Nash out there. As far as I know, he never won a ring playing basketball.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:04 am
by pagielak
Superbone wrote:pagielak wrote:Furlanfufi wrote:Nash won a ring, finally...
Yes, first and foremost congrats to Steve for getting a ring, it's just a shame that it wasn't with Suns.
Congrats to the Warriors as well, KD was incredible and they deserved it.
If the Suns built a team like this we wouldn't be complaining
Funny, I didn't see Nash out there. As far as I know, he never won a ring playing basketball.
Ok, maybe he didn't get one since he was only a consultant, probably should have read a tweet more carefully
But then again he was hugging Steph after the game and seemed happy so there is always that... and I bet his insight and tips helped them a lot
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:26 am
by Flagrant Fowl
The Haterade is strong round these parts.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:47 am
by TOO
Flagrant Fowl wrote:The Haterade is strong round these parts.
Is the truth haterade now?
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:42 am
by O_Gardino
Split T wrote:AmareIsGod wrote:Split T wrote:Agreed and I think there is a decent gap between 2 and 3
Third best? Westbrook. Harden.?
Could be, I probably lean kawhi, but curry, harden, Westbrook are all right there.
Totally agree about 1-2-gap. I think there's still a good gap between 1 and 2, as well. But age could catch up with LeBron in the next year or two. I would put Kyrie Irving and Chris Paul in the same batch as Curry, Harden, Westbrook.
Re: NBA Finals 2017: Warriors vs Cavs
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:45 am
by djy2j
Glad someone other than the Cavs won. Compare KD's actions all you want. KD didn't have an hour long show devoted to reveal what team he wanted to go play for. I also feel KD didn't hand pick the roster and coach like LeBron did. Lebron to me was more the kid in the store who threw a tantrum until he got everything he wanted. KD just wanted to play some place he could win multiple championships. It just happened to be for the team that knocked his previous team out. That is what rubs alot of people the wrong way. I'm not mad at him. I thought he took the humble approach for the most part.