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Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:26 pm
by ShelC
Again....technical GM- can "do" the job, but wasn't actually any good at it. Even the good trades he made were because of something dumb he did beforehand. Yea we got a 1st for Markieff because of a plan of his that didn't work - and it cost us a season and a coaching staff (remember firing the assistants first?). Yea we traded Bledsoe for a 1st - after his social media post 4 games into the season when we could've moved him to the Bucks over the summer with more leverage. Brandon Knight to a full max deal?
It's over and done with but how anyone call his tenure a success or that he was a good GM is beyond me. He was a below average exec that cost us 5 years.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:56 pm
by Indy
In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:35 pm
Do Chriss and Bridges not count?
I was referring to him screwing up our top 10 picks. For Chriss and Mikal he traded lower picks and other assets to move up. I wasn't sure if it was fair to call those out.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:11 pm
by In2ition
Indy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:56 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:35 pm
Do Chriss and Bridges not count?
I was referring to him screwing up our top 10 picks. For Chriss and Mikal he traded lower picks and other assets to move up. I wasn't sure if it was fair to call those out.
I figured, but was wondering.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:16 pm
by Mori Chu
ShelC wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:26 pm
Again....technical GM- can "do" the job, but wasn't actually any good at it. Even the good trades he made were because of something dumb he did beforehand. Yea we got a 1st for M******f because of a plan of his that didn't work - and it cost us a season and a coaching staff (remember firing the assistants first?). Yea we traded Bledsoe for a 1st - after his social media post 4 games into the season when we could've moved him to the Bucks over the summer with more leverage. Brandon Knight to a full max deal?
It's over and done with but how anyone call his tenure a success or that he was a good GM is beyond me. He was a below average exec that cost us 5 years.
You can spin this both ways. You can say everything good he did was then undone by a screwup. Or you can say that when he messed up, he worked to set things right, making moves to undo damage or get future assets. Both views have some truth to them.
Also, not to nitpick, but Brandon Knight did not get "a full max deal." He was signed to 5 years, $70m, which is not the max amount he could have theoretically signed if he were a superstar.
I do agree with your criticisms of his individual moves in your post. He did make several mistakes that cost us as a franchise.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:47 pm
by Shabazz
You guys should watch some of the videos of that are floating around from that Jones interview. This franchise is a joke.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:00 pm
by TOO
Shabazz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:47 pm
You guys should watch some of the videos of that are floating around from that Jones interview. This franchise is a joke.
Nah, I dont need any new reasons to dislike this doo doo party.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:57 pm
by INFORMER
James Jones is the Front Office Earl Watson.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:11 pm
by Charlie Smithy!
Yup.
Remind to never say we've hit rock bottom.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:15 pm
by TOO
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:57 pm
James Jones is the Front Office Earl Watson.
This is great.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:21 pm
by Cap
Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:11 pm
Yup.
Remind to never say we've hit rock bottom.
Every time you think we’ve hit rock bottom, we find a way to keep digging. At this rate, we’re going to end up playing in the Aussie league.
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:01 pm
by Mori Chu
I want to be mad at James Jones for these dumb comments. But I ultimately don't fault him. He's an example of the Peter Principle. He has been promoted to his level of incompetence. It isn't his fault he isn't qualified for the job he's holding. He was offered it and he accepted. Why shouldn't he? It's a great opportunity, to help manage an NBA franchise. Who wouldn't want that job?
Ultimately the blame comes back to the same place: Little Bobby Saver. He is the one choosing the wrong people time and again for these important front office jobs. He's the one cheaping out and offering some of the lowest salaries in the league to coaches and GMs. He's the one going out of his way to choose people with little or no experience. IMO he does this partly because he wants them to be willing to take a lower salary, and partly because he wants to exert his meddlesome influence on them in their day-to-day work, and veterans won't tolerate that.
Saver is the problem. He has always been the problem. #SarverOUT
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:04 pm
by The Bobster
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:01 pm
I want to be mad at James Jones for these dumb comments. But I ultimately don't fault him. He's an example of the Peter Principle. He has been promoted to his level of incompetence. It isn't his fault he isn't qualified for the job he's holding. He was offered it and he accepted. Why shouldn't he? It's a great opportunity, to help manage an NBA franchise. Who wouldn't want that job?
Ultimately the blame comes back to the same place: Little Bobby Saver. He is the one choosing the wrong people time and again for these important front office jobs. He's the one cheaping out and offering some of the lowest salaries in the league to coaches and GMs. He's the one going out of his way to choose people with little or no experience. IMO he does this partly because he wants them to be willing to take a lower salary, and partly because he wants to exert his meddlesome influence on them in their day-to-day work, and veterans won't tolerate that.
Saver is the problem. He has always been the problem. #SarverOUT
Exactly.
I just wonder where Sarver goes for advice or does he just pull names out of his ass?
Re: 2019 NBA Trade Deadline
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:15 pm
by Cap
The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:04 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:01 pm
I want to be mad at James Jones for these dumb comments. But I ultimately don't fault him. He's an example of the Peter Principle. He has been promoted to his level of incompetence. It isn't his fault he isn't qualified for the job he's holding. He was offered it and he accepted. Why shouldn't he? It's a great opportunity, to help manage an NBA franchise. Who wouldn't want that job?
Ultimately the blame comes back to the same place: Little Bobby Saver. He is the one choosing the wrong people time and again for these important front office jobs. He's the one cheaping out and offering some of the lowest salaries in the league to coaches and GMs. He's the one going out of his way to choose people with little or no experience. IMO he does this partly because he wants them to be willing to take a lower salary, and partly because he wants to exert his meddlesome influence on them in their day-to-day work, and veterans won't tolerate that.
Saver is the problem. He has always been the problem. #SarverOUT
Exactly.
I just wonder where Sarver goes for advice or does he just pull names out of his ass?
I’m sure he speaks with himself, number one, because he has a very good brain and he’s said a lot of things.