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I hope we can all agree that anybody who actually involved themselves in doing gross sex stuff with Epstein should face consequences. Like, such a person should not be voted for, such a person should be investigated or prosecuted as appropriate. Whether that's Bill Clinton, or Trump, or Biden, or Alan Dershowitz, or whomever it is.

I don’t care what gross stuff they were doing as long as it was legal and consensual. Sex with underaged girls would come under the category of illegal and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent.

I agree on general, Dack. But prostitution is also illegal in many areas. It sure seems like Epstein was trafficking women of various ages and not always with their full consent. So I find the whole enterprise very sketchy and questionable regardless of whether some subset of it was technically legal.

Trafficking adult women as sex slaves certainly counts as illegal activity. I actually think prostitution should be legal like Amsterdam, regulated.

Nodack wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:09 pm

Trafficking adult women as sex slaves certainly counts as illegal activity. I actually think prostitution should be legal like Amsterdam, regulated.

Agreed. I don’t see a problem with two consenting adults having sex where the only difference is money is exchanged.

I have wondered how many rapes this might end.

So Trump's name was brought up in the unsealed Epstein court documents, testimony and questions in the trial. I assume that it must not have been anything, otherwise it would have been mentioned, right?

Nodack wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:42 am

I have wondered how many rapes this might end.

Huh?

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:44 am

Nodack wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:42 am

I have wondered how many rapes this might end.

Huh?

I have wondered how many men have been desperate enough for sex a that they would rape a woman because for whatever reason no girl wants any part of them. Legalizing prostitution might solve that.

In2ition wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:43 am

So Trump's name was brought up in the unsealed Epstein court documents, testimony and questions in the trial. I assume that it must not have been anything, otherwise it would have been mentioned, right?

I see lots of mentioning going on. Prince Andrew, Clinton and Trump are being mentioned as frequent travelers on Epstein Airlines. They aren’t being accused officially of anything yet except in Prince Andrew’s case. He is getting hammered in England.

Nodack wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:01 am

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:44 am

Nodack wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:42 am

I have wondered how many rapes this might end.

Huh?

I have wondered how many men have been desperate enough for sex a that they would rape a woman because for whatever reason no girl wants any part of them. Legalizing prostitution might solve that.

I am skeptical of your theory. Being able to relieve their physical urges in a brothel isn’t going to assuage their anger. Rape is more about power dynamics than relieving horniness.

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:15 am

I am skeptical of your theory. Being able to relieve their physical urges in a brother isn’t going to assuage their anger. Rape is more about power dynamics than relieving horniness.

Hey, what you do in your family is your business, but me and my bros don't get down like that!!

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:24 am

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:15 am

I am skeptical of your theory. Being able to relieve their physical urges in a brother isn’t going to assuage their anger. Rape is more about power dynamics than relieving horniness.

Hey, what you do in your family is your business, but me and my bros don't get down like that!!

Queue the banjos!

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:15 am

Nodack wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:01 am

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:44 am

Nodack wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:42 am

I have wondered how many rapes this might end.

Huh?

I have wondered how many men have been desperate enough for sex a that they would rape a woman because for whatever reason no girl wants any part of them. Legalizing prostitution might solve that.

I am skeptical of your theory. Being able to relieve their physical urges in a brother isn’t going to assuage their anger. Rape is more about power dynamics than relieving horniness.

I have heard this theory many times and it’s true in many cases. I propose everyone who rapes isn’t doing it for the exact same reasons as everyone else.

Sorry Mori, Mario is back with his siren emoji.

This seems like big news about a former Israel PM Ehud Barak is indicted here, but what do you guys think?

I just don't know why you consider some guy on Twitter to be a reliable news source.

It's Mario Nawfal, he's not necessarily breaking stories, but reporting what's been reported. Go ahead and fact check his work yourself. He'll be right, I'm pretty sure. He's not some right wing nut bag, like you may think. He leans left.

I looked him up. Some guy on Twitter that Musk is a fan of that is involved in all kinds of different things like crypto and he owes a lot of people money that they can’t get from him because he lives in Dubai.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/ ... -rcna92132

Nodack wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:31 am

I looked him up. Some guy on Twitter that Musk is a fan of that is involved in all kinds of different things like crypto and he owes a lot of people money that they can’t get from him because he lives in Dubai.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/ ... -rcna92132

Oh, you found a hit piece? Shocking.