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Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:41 pm
by iLLmatic
Shel where did you read that at? I'd be happy if we made that trade.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:02 pm
by TOO
It was a twitter rumor as far as I know. I'd do it if I were PHX, if only to avoid maxing Bledsoe.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:05 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:New rumor is that the Kings put out a feeler to us on Bledsoe, offering IThomas and the 8th pick for him. Kind of out of left field, hasn't really been validated.
INF would be all over that. I'm a little leery of what we might end up paying Bledsoe/Dragic also. I think I'd rather spend the money on a PF.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:10 pm
by carey
He'd have to want to go there and it would have to be completed after the draft with Sacramento selecting for us. I don't see it, but you never know.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:13 pm
by TOO
Superbone wrote:
ShelC wrote:New rumor is that the Kings put out a feeler to us on Bledsoe, offering IThomas and the 8th pick for him. Kind of out of left field, hasn't really been validated.
INF would be all over that. I'm a little leery of what we might end up paying Bledsoe/Dragic also. I think I'd rather spend the money on a PF.
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Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:16 pm
by Shabazz
Superbone wrote:
ShelC wrote:New rumor is that the Kings put out a feeler to us on Bledsoe, offering IThomas and the 8th pick for him. Kind of out of left field, hasn't really been validated.
INF would be all over that. I'm a little leery of what we might end up paying Bledsoe/Dragic also. I think I'd rather spend the money on a PF.
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Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:44 pm
by Cap

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:58 pm
by Ring_Wanted
As Carey points, it would be really complicated. Bledsoe and Thomas can't be moved at the draft so the Kings would have to pick our guy and then execute a simultaneous sign and trade after the moratorium expires, and that's assuming Bledsoe wants to go there. Cousins is his buddy, but it's Sacramento, and it's the Kings.

Isaiah just had a monster season but there is a reason as to why the Kings are supposedly looking for guards in the draft and I guess trades like this one. Thomas is not a point guard, he is a ball dominant driver and volume scorer who is tough as nails but also extremely small, and who needs a new contract the Kings are not sure he is worth.

I get not wanting to gamble on Bledsoe's health, but IT is best in a 6th man microwave role, not replacing Bledsoe alongside Dragic.

Unless you are absolutely in love with somebody at #8, and it leaves you with a roster that makes sense, you don't do this. I love Stauskas, for instance, but those three would make a really flawed backcourt on D.

If the Kings are so eager to move the pick and you are so interested in the #8, go the salary dump route. Just take Thompson/Landry, Outlaw, add something to sweeten the deal for the Kings and call it a day.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:12 pm
by Superbone
Very interesting:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /11298147/
Stauskas is often connected to the Suns but there was no known workout for him, or McDermott, in Phoenix. Stauskas at one point did name the Suns as one of four teams that would work him out.

Comments like this, which Stauskas made at the NBA draft combine, sure sound like a Phoenix fit — and then some: "If a team needs a guy who can really space the floor and they have a couple guys who are great at getting to the basket, that's going to open a lot of things for me. A team that likes to drive and kick would fit well for me."

Stauskas, a Goran Dragic fan, actually said all that without mentioning the Suns.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:30 am
by ShelC
It would be a great smokescreen. The 49ers, despite loving Kaepernick, never worked him out prior to the draft so he'd stay off their radar.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:17 am
by In2ition
Do they really need to work him out? It should be pretty clear what he brings to the table. High bballiq with elite shooting skills. Good handles and size along with good not great athleticism.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:25 am
by Ring_Wanted
I hope not woking out doesn't matter in his case. At this point he is probably my #1 target if available, but I think he won't be there at #14.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:05 am
by Mori Chu
I don't see what's to be gained by NOT working a guy out. Teams know about these players, and we've worked out plenty of players.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:16 am
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote:I don't see what's to be gained by NOT working a guy out. Teams know about these players, and we've worked out plenty of players.
Maybe he did on the down low and it wasn't publicized? We did something along those lines with Dragic too.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:22 am
by Sunsfan4life
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11128 ... lo-anthony

The suns need to try and take advantage of this. I'd gladly eat Nash's contract for 7...a top 8 pick could net you a perennial all-star IMO wheather it be Gordon or Vonleh or even Exum. Throw them 18 and call it a deal.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:30 am
by carey
Sunsfan4life wrote:The suns need to try and take advantage of this. I'd gladly eat Nash's contract for 7...a top 8 pick could net you a perennial all-star IMO wheather it be Gordon or Vonleh or even Exum. Throw them 18 and call it a deal.
I'm down with it, like I said earlier. However, with both Melo & James opting out, I will literally die if they both wind up in Los Angeles somehow.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:09 pm
by dragickingdom
It would be most satisfying if they were to mortgage the future more and strike out in free agency with both LBJ and Melo. Then spend too much on second rate players to make Kobe happy.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:20 pm
by SwingMan
Sunsfan4life wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11128 ... lo-anthony

The suns need to try and take advantage of this. I'd gladly eat Nash's contract for 7...a top 8 pick could net you a perennial all-star IMO wheather it be Gordon or Vonleh or even Exum. Throw them 18 and call it a deal.
I'd definitely do this for #18 or #27 + future 2nds etc. if we don't have to give up a player. #'s 7, 14 & 18 or 27 is obviously a clear upgrade and Nash could retire in style.

Not worried about possible 2014-15 cap room in the least if it gets us Vonleh or Gordon - and with Frye walking, it's even more viable, as we'd be that much further from any possible luxury tax.

Fuck yeah, I'm in.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:13 pm
by carey
It's the kind of move we should do for the future. If they are serious about building this right. However, if they are just shooting for a playoff seed & a bit of improvement over last season I doubt they are interested in doing something like this.

Re: Suns 2014: NBA Draft

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:02 pm
by SwingMan
carey wrote:It's the kind of move we should do for the future. If they are serious about building this right. However, if they are just shooting for a playoff seed & a bit of improvement over last season I doubt they are interested in doing something like this.
Hell carey, this move would help us now as well as the future. Vonleh or Gordon would solidify the 4 for years to come and give us more quality depth with preserving, at least, #14 in the process (McDermott etc.). If the Lakers are that serious about gaining cap room, there's no reason at all we shouldn't do it.

Besides - I'm anxious to see if our training staff can squeeze one more year out of Nash in a vastly reduced role.

Fuck yeah - I'm all for helping the Lakers get Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James. ;)