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Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 5:50 pm
by Superbone
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
He might have to fire himself from meddling first.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 5:51 pm
by Superbone
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 7:14 pm
by iLLmatic
Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 5:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.
Hey SB, I’ve seen borg a few times lol what does that stand for?

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 7:57 pm
by Kryptonic
iLLmatic wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 7:14 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 5:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm


I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.
Hey SB, I’ve seen borg a few times lol what does that stand for?
The college kids call BORG's... Big Ol Rage Gallon's but don't think SB is that hip :P j/k

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 7:58 pm
by TOO
Gallons? Like milk or a hat? College kids are idiots. Stupid clouds.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 8:30 pm
by Wally_West
Can’t wait for the new staff around Vogel.

Phil Handy

Tom Izzo

Mateen Cleaves


*other Michigan state alums*

LFG!!!

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 8:37 pm
by Cap
iLLmatic wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 7:14 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 5:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm


I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.
Hey SB, I’ve seen borg a few times lol what does that stand for?
It’s a comment common on AZSF that means two posters are thinking the same thing, like they don’t have individual minds, like the Borg from Star Trek.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 10:26 pm
by BKinSJC
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 1:46 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 1:27 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 1:11 pm
Hey remember how Flex said we'd get news on Vogel "Monday or Tuesday"? LMAO. Full of shit.
No, he said today or tomorrow. Today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow. We'll check back in tomorrow which will then be today.
When will THEN be NOW?!
… Soon!

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 11:16 pm
by SunsSince92
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
If that's the case then Jones is redundant so the point still stands. If he isn't constructing the roster then what is the point of his role?

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 11:24 pm
by iLLmatic
Cap wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 8:37 pm
iLLmatic wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 7:14 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 5:51 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm


I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
Borg.
Hey SB, I’ve seen borg a few times lol what does that stand for?
It’s a comment common on AZSF that means two posters are thinking the same thing, like they don’t have individual minds, like the Borg from Star Trek.
That’s where I’m seeing it from. Thanks for clarifying.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 5:03 am
by Kryptonic
TOO wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 7:58 pm
Gallons? Like milk or a hat? College kids are idiots. Stupid clouds.
Yes, they can be lol. My son doesn’t do it but showed me videos. They take water gallons, empty half the water then fill the other half with a 5th of alcohol and drink dropper or liquid IV for flavor and to make sure they’re hydrating at the same time.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 8:18 am
by rhylek
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:31 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:16 pm
They have to fire him. Why even keep Vogel on if you're going to force him to completely replace his coaching staff, which would completely undermine and emasculate him?
That's a Sarver move.
Isn't it what he did to Hornacek? Worked so well !!!

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 8:25 am
by rhylek
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 11:16 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm
Drewsprocket wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:23 pm
What realistic moves would people make if they’re Ishbia and Jones this offseason?
Fire Vogel…
I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
If that's the case then Jones is redundant so the point still stands. If he isn't constructing the roster then what is the point of his role?
That seems to happen quite a lot with new owners, like Cuban at the time, or our beloved Sarver.
There was reports that Ishbia took some advice from Colangelo, but maybe he's too old, or that was just a smokescreen.
I just hope he learns to defer to the people in charge quicker than Cuban, so we can have our first title while I'm still alive!

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 9:36 am
by Superbone
rhylek wrote:
Thu May 09, 2024 8:25 am
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 11:16 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm
SunsSince92 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 2:14 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed May 08, 2024 12:33 pm


I think Ishbia has to consider firing Jones, too. I think we start hearing rumors that Jones in on the hot seat after the draft.
I'd fire Jones before Vogel personally. People can blame Vogel but Jones put that car crash of a roster together and hired a coach who's skillset required a weighting towards more defensive minded players.
Mat Ishbia put together the roster.
If that's the case then Jones is redundant so the point still stands. If he isn't constructing the roster then what is the point of his role?
That seems to happen quite a lot with new owners, like Cuban at the time, or our beloved Sarver.
There was reports that Ishbia took some advice from Colangelo, but maybe he's too old, or that was just a smokescreen.
I just hope he learns to defer to the people in charge quicker than Cuban, so we can have our first title while I'm still alive!
You and me both and I'm pretty sure I have less time than you do.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 9:52 am
by Superbone

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 10:20 am
by TOO
There isn't a trade that doesn't make sense for the Suns to accommodate that move. Jacquez is a must, but after that there isn't much that would be available that could help the Suns.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 10:22 am
by Mori Chu
I don't see why KD or any other player is required to comment on every random rumor that some random podcaster says about them. And KD isn't in charge of whether or not he'd go to Miami or any other team; the Suns would have to be the ones to trade him. I'd just ignore it if I were him.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 11:14 am
by In2ition
Sure, it would be ok if they kept everyone that helped and they got rid of everyone that didn't help them. I'm not worrying about a KD trade to Miami, as it seems very unlikely to happen. With that being said, I think that Spoelstra could figure out how to use KD correctly.

Re: 2024 Suns General Offseason News

Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 11:34 am
by Mori Chu
If Miami wants to give us a godfather offer for KD, I absolutely take that call. But I'm already on record as wanting to blow this team up.