Doesn’t look like his shot is worth more than when he has wide open looks. Maybe 2-3 3pt attempts per game. That thing doesn’t look fluid enough to get up if defended. Honestly teams will probably give him the whole year to let if fly of open. If they ever stay up on him, does he have the handle to blow by a defender?
That video is from March 2021. His shot has improved a lot since then.
Perhaps a bit. But…still got a ways to go. I hope he’s getting tons of work in.
Wtf. C’mon. Should be owner malpractice right there. No owner should be allowed to have that sort of unprofessional behavior. This degrades the sport. There is no shortage of people who want to be owners. This doesn’t even include being a racist, misogynistic pos.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:49 am
by JeremyG
I still believe it was Sarver refusing to extend Ayton last summer. Jones seems to want to keep him around. They achieved their goal: keeping him at a discounted price. But it's impossible for that to not affect the relationship at all, with Ayton knowing he earned a max extension last summer with the Finals run and then they wait to get him for the lowest price possible instead of giving him the respect he had earned and showing their commitment to him. It may have even hurt the team chemistry in the playoffs. Sarver really knows how to screw up a championship contender.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:58 am
by Indy
I don't think it was Sarver. I think it was exactly what Jones said. They were happy to pay him the max, just not the DRME because it limits their ability to construct a roster.
I don't think it was Sarver. I think it was exactly what Jones said. They were happy to pay him the max, just not the DRME because it limits their ability to construct a roster.
I agree with this. Just look at the complications it's causing for Brooklyn right now.
I don't think it was Sarver. I think it was exactly what Jones said. They were happy to pay him the max, just not the DRME because it limits their ability to construct a roster.
Then why didn't they offer the 4-year max on June 30?
I don't think it was Sarver. I think it was exactly what Jones said. They were happy to pay him the max, just not the DRME because it limits their ability to construct a roster.
Then why didn't they offer the 4-year max on June 30?
At that point there is no need to. Ayton's camp has said very publicly that there were numerous teams ready to give him the max contract on day 1. Why give him that extra 3% compounded per year if you don't have to?
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:21 am
by Split T
I think they also would have definitely included Ayton in a KD deal if they could have. Offering him a Max wouldn’t have allowed for that
I don't think it was Sarver. I think it was exactly what Jones said. They were happy to pay him the max, just not the DRME because it limits their ability to construct a roster.
Then why didn't they offer the 4-year max on June 30?
At that point there is no need to. Ayton's camp has said very publicly that there were numerous teams ready to give him the max contract on day 1. Why give him that extra 3% compounded per year if you don't have to?
Then why offer it the year before?
Using that logic, why ever extend an upcoming RFA a year early? Why did they give Book the max in 2018, when they could have waited until 2019 and kept him for a discount through the RFA process?
I don't think it was Sarver. I think it was exactly what Jones said. They were happy to pay him the max, just not the DRME because it limits their ability to construct a roster.
Then why didn't they offer the 4-year max on June 30?
At that point there is no need to. Ayton's camp has said very publicly that there were numerous teams ready to give him the max contract on day 1. Why give him that extra 3% compounded per year if you don't have to?
Then why offer it the year before?
Using that logic, why ever extend an upcoming RFA a year early? Why did they give Book the max in 2018, when they could have waited until 2019 and kept him for a discount through the RFA process?
They wanted to see if the market allowed them to pay less than the max. They negotiated with Ayton without negotiating.
I don't think it was Sarver. I think it was exactly what Jones said. They were happy to pay him the max, just not the DRME because it limits their ability to construct a roster.
Then why didn't they offer the 4-year max on June 30?
At that point there is no need to. Ayton's camp has said very publicly that there were numerous teams ready to give him the max contract on day 1. Why give him that extra 3% compounded per year if you don't have to?
Then why offer it the year before?
Using that logic, why ever extend an upcoming RFA a year early? Why did they give Book the max in 2018, when they could have waited until 2019 and kept him for a discount through the RFA process?
The answer for Book specifically is because Book is the best player on the team, their best player chance at a great "Forever Sun" and nobody ever had to question his work ethic or focus during games.
To your first question, it was to get the deal done before any feelings got hurt and we could lock up an asset. But it clearly went south when Duffy said he wouldn't even hear offers of less than a 5 year full max.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:17 pm
by bajanguy008
Things have come to a crawl
Both on social media and the forum tbh as just going around in circles with certain discussions
Good to see that the national media still does this thing where the majority of stories is Why someone should be leaving or not going Phx. It's such a weird thing to do every season
Using that logic, why ever extend an upcoming RFA a year early? Why did they give Book the max in 2018, when they could have waited until 2019 and kept him for a discount through the RFA process?
Things have come to a crawl
Both on social media and the forum tbh as just going around in circles with certain discussions
Good to see that the national media still does this thing where the majority of stories is Why someone should be leaving or not going Phx. It's such a weird thing to do every season
I didn't know that a "scenario" could have a mind and a will. I'm guessing that instead of "could want to make Suns star leave" they meant "could make Suns star want to leave." Any hint of journalistic standards is pretty much gone these days.
as just going around in circles with certain discussions
