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Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:57 pm
by Kryptonic
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:54 am
Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:07 am
I resent this implication that specialsauce has changed a lot since the old days. Far from it. He was an asshole then, and he's an asshole now! :-) (Love ya sauce.)
Til the day I die
Don’t you dare change, you lovable bastard ;)

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:58 pm
by Superbone
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:32 pm
The stream I'm watching lacks commentary and it's difficult to make out the players unless trying to focus on their jersey number. After the first quarter, Hield #7 is pretty much carrying the team.

Ayton has 6 points in just under 8 minutes. He sealed a defender and bobbled a pass under the rim (and probably got away with a travel) but finished with a strong dunk. He also received a pass at midcourt and took a good 5-6 dribbles to about 12-feet and hit a jumper. Not sure why the Cuban defender kept back peddling. He's looked very pedestrian on the defensive side. One time he waived his hand up in the restricted area when a Cuban player shot a 3. :lol:
First thing I see is a highlight of Ayton driving the lane and dunking the ball!

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:01 pm
by Superbone

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:04 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I mean, why the hell was that Cuban defender even thinking of trying to block his jump shot?

Still glad Ayton didn't try some dumb layup or hesitation into a pivot hook shot.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:25 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Defense:
Still not great. Lost his man in the paint and should've resulted in a much easier shot, but the Cuban guy dribbled into a bad position and allowed Ayton to recover and contest.

He's not providing much help defense at all.

Offense:
Tried to dribble receive an inbound pass and nearly turned it over. Recovered, dribbled about 5-6 times with the Cuban defender on his hip and eventually put in a successful turn around jumper.

Received an easy alley-oop pass for a dunk, and a dunker spot catch and finish off of a Gordon drive.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:33 pm
by Superbone
Vogel has his work cut out for him getting Ayton to know where to position himself on defense.

And Bahamas are crushing Cuba. Up almost 40.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:35 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Defense:
Missed a swipe at a pretty poor alley-oop pass that was converted by Cuba.

Looking kinda gassed in transition, holding his shorts at every dead ball. Subbed out around the 6:30 mark with the Bahamas up by 33 points.

Offense:
Nice right handed dribble drive from the wing into a one handed dunk on the reverse side. Kinda tried the move again soon after and the defender cut it off.

Missed an 18-footer after doing that jab step pump fake thing he loves for a couple of seconds.

Full bench in for the Bahamas now so him, Gordon and Hield are likely done.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:58 pm
by 3TheHardaway
With such a wide margin its hard to look at things like defensive and rebounding intensity when you're crushing an outmanned opponent without needing to expend much energy. And I'm going to bet his conditioning is garbage at this point in the summer.

Putting the ball on the floor and driving to the rim is a welcomed sight though.

Just going to have to pray that hes receptive and coachable for Vogel.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:15 pm
by JeremyG
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:25 pm
Defense:
Still not great. Lost his man in the paint and should've resulted in a much easier shot, but the Cuban guy dribbled into a bad position and allowed Ayton to recover and contest.

He's not providing much help defense at all.
Of course you're not going to mention his excellent lateral movement that resulted in multiple travels.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:20 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
He was fairly sleep walky on the defensive side from tip-off. Even when he wasn't putting in an effort to contest jump shots, it didn't result in him chasing rebounds.

Argentina is the only team in this tournament who could possibly compete with the Bahamas NBA trio, so we'll have to see if they'll ever really need him to focus on that end of the court.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:21 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:15 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:25 pm
Defense:
Still not great. Lost his man in the paint and should've resulted in a much easier shot, but the Cuban guy dribbled into a bad position and allowed Ayton to recover and contest.

He's not providing much help defense at all.
Of course you're not going to mention his excellent lateral movement that resulted in multiple travels.
I guess?

I didn't notice that happen at all, but there could've been things I missed as the stream was without commentary and I was taking notes.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:01 pm
by AmareIsGod

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:02 pm
by AmareIsGod
Lots of GREAT Ayton highlights. Looked far more fierce than most of all last season.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:14 pm
by Split T
Encouraging…but it is against a bunch of non-nba level players.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:19 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:14 pm
Encouraging…but it is against a bunch of non-nba level players.
Don’t care.

Get a full squeeze out of those nuts, show me some aggression regardless of opponent, good highlights

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:24 pm
by specialsauce
Kryptonic wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:57 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:54 am
Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:07 am
I resent this implication that specialsauce has changed a lot since the old days. Far from it. He was an asshole then, and he's an asshole now! :-) (Love ya sauce.)
Til the day I die
Don’t you dare change, you lovable bastard ;)
:lol:

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:55 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Split T wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:14 pm
Encouraging…but it is against a bunch of non-nba level players.
Hield and Gordon looked 5 years younger and the Cubans kept forgetting Gordon can hit from 30-feet.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:23 pm
by virtual9mm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:19 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:14 pm
Encouraging…but it is against a bunch of non-nba level players.
Don’t care.

Get a full squeeze out of those nuts, show me some aggression regardless of opponent, good highlights
He's so much more talented than most NBA players anyway. And if he gets into the habit of dominating against lesser competition, it will carry over.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:32 pm
by JeremyG
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cv87lXAL ... BiNWFlZA==

Even the official Bahamas national team account is getting in on the whole DA embracing the hate thing :lol:

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:05 pm
by Superbone